RE: "Support for blademgr and DataBlade Developers Kit (DBDK) is removed starting Informix Server 14.10.xC6.
Standard blades will be autoregistered. You should use SYSBldPrepare() function to register user defined blades."
This is awful phrasing by IBM, I have written datablades and bladelets for years now and I have never used the DBDK since Windows 98. You do not need the DBDK at all, I don't think it has been downloadable for years, and probably won't install under Windows anymore
But the phrasing implies you can't do blade development anymore.
Cheers
Paul
On 7/26/2023 8:26 AM, David Williams via IBM TechXchange Community wrote:
010001899261158d-531b756c-a84c-4265-a4ea-3a934078f1e6-000000@email.amazonses.com"> ALL - Please vote the below ideas up Hi, If IBM are serious where are the following in Informix? DB2 has them and IBM has owned both code... -posted to the "Informix" group
Re: Informix future... | | | ALL - Please vote the below ideas up Hi,
If IBM are serious where are the following in Informix? DB2 has them and IBM has owned both code bases for over 20 years, what is the delay? Merge DB2 and Informix? Sure merge them on the Informix code base - User level threading so less user->kernel transactions so more efficient
- Less stack depth for common operations in Informix e.g. Buffered index reads
- Informix has more advanced extentsions capability than Db2 datablades.
Talking about datablades, why does www.ibm.com/docs/vi/informix-servers/... say "Support for blademgr and DataBlade Developers Kit (DBDK) is removed starting Informix Server 14.10.xC6. Standard blades will be autoregistered. You should use SYSBldPrepare() function to register user defined blades." We can still register blades but how do we develop them without the DataBlade Developers Kit? ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-479 Add columnar indexes to Informix. - Future consideration Db2,Oracle,SQL Server have these, Sybase (IQ), KDB (Timeseries columar) have these. DB2 has had this for 5 years+, where is the Informix version? ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-488 Add MPP/DPF/XPS Clustering to Informix - Future consideration Db2,Oracle,SQL Server (used to be Parallel Data Warehouse) Even Sybase has this with Compute Cluster, where is the Informix Verson, XPS was killed! Sybase in 2019 had no roadmap beyond 2025 and people were saying it would die then and even they had developed 1 database across multiple VMs! DB2 has had this for 5 years+, where is the Informix version? ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-489 Informix Purescale - Future consideration Oracle RAC< DB2 Purescale, where is the Informix Version? DB2 has had this for 5 years+, where is the Informix version? ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-539 Add Block Indexes to informix - Submitted DB2 MDC has this, even Postgres has BRIN Indexes. DB2 has had this for 5 years+, where is the Informix version? ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-540 Add Materialized Views to Infomrix same as Oracle and DB2 - Submitted Oracle has had this for decades, DB2 has MQTs. In multi-machine version MQTs can even be broadcast to each node! ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-541 Add MDC Multidimension Clustering Tables to Informix same as DB2 - Submitted DB2 has had this for 5 years+, where is the Informix version? ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-486 NUMA aware memory allocations. - Future consideration DB2, Oracle, SQL Server DB2 has had this for 5 years+, where is the Informix version?
ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-542 Timeseries support compression - Submitted KDB has had this since at least 2017, how does Informix compete?
ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-543 Timeseries support more than 1 concurrent write per container/chunk. - Submitted Heard this was an issues in 2017 or earlier, have not heard it has been fixed. KDB has had this since at least 2017, how does Informix compete? David.
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Sent: 7/26/2023 9:26:00 AM
From: David Williams
Subject: RE: Informix future...
ALL - Please vote the below ideas up
Hi,
If IBM are serious where are the following in Informix?
DB2 has them and IBM has owned both code bases for over 20 years, what is the delay?
Merge DB2 and Informix? Sure merge them on the Informix code base
- User level threading so less user->kernel transactions so more efficient
- Less stack depth for common operations in Informix e.g. Buffered index reads
- Informix has more advanced extentsions capability than Db2 datablades.
Talking about datablades, why does https://www.ibm.com/docs/vi/informix-servers/14.10?topic=overview-whats-new-in-informix#concept_v1410xc9__1410xc9_blades say
"Support for blademgr and DataBlade Developers Kit (DBDK) is removed starting Informix Server 14.10.xC6.
Standard blades will be autoregistered. You should use SYSBldPrepare() function to register user defined blades."
We can still register blades but how do we develop them without the DataBlade Developers Kit?
https://ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-479 Add columnar indexes to Informix. - Future consideration
Db2,Oracle,SQL Server have these, Sybase (IQ), KDB (Timeseries columar) have these.
DB2 has had this for 5 years+, where is the Informix version?
https://ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-488 Add MPP/DPF/XPS Clustering to Informix - Future consideration
Db2,Oracle,SQL Server (used to be Parallel Data Warehouse)
Even Sybase has this with Compute Cluster, where is the Informix Verson, XPS was killed!
Sybase in 2019 had no roadmap beyond 2025 and people were saying it would die then and even they had developed 1 database across multiple VMs!
DB2 has had this for 5 years+, where is the Informix version?
https://ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-489 Informix Purescale - Future consideration
Oracle RAC< DB2 Purescale, where is the Informix Version?
DB2 has had this for 5 years+, where is the Informix version?
https://ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-539 Add Block Indexes to informix - Submitted
DB2 MDC has this, even Postgres has BRIN Indexes.
DB2 has had this for 5 years+, where is the Informix version?
https://ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-540 Add Materialized Views to Infomrix same as Oracle and DB2 - Submitted
Oracle has had this for decades, DB2 has MQTs.
In multi-machine version MQTs can even be broadcast to each node!
https://ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-541
Add MDC Multidimension Clustering Tables to Informix same as DB2 - Submitted
DB2 has had this for 5 years+, where is the Informix version?
https://ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-486 NUMA aware memory allocations. - Future consideration
DB2, Oracle, SQL Server
DB2 has had this for 5 years+, where is the Informix version?
https://ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-542 Timeseries support compression - Submitted
KDB has had this since at least 2017, how does Informix compete?
https://ideas.ibm.com/ideas/INFX-I-543 Timeseries support more than 1 concurrent write per container/chunk. - Submitted
Heard this was an issues in 2017 or earlier, have not heard it has been fixed.
KDB has had this since at least 2017, how does Informix compete?
David.
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Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 24, 2023 11:35 AM
From: Paul Watson
Subject: Informix future...
HCL DB of choice is now Actian (Ingress of old), they bought the company a few years back.
I sell more Informix on HCL paperwork (ie OneDB) cos they will let me sell licenses, IBM just won't. HCL are great to work with and are interested in helping.
Cheers
Paul
On 7/24/2023 10:27 AM, Benjamin Thompson via IBM TechXchange Community wrote:
010001898883834f-1b55eab0-52b0-47a2-851d-2e803af4a319-000000@email.amazonses.com"> Hi David, I have stated before that I wish the IIUG Insider could be more positive. As a customer I think there is quite a bit to be positive... -posted to the "Informix" group
Re: Informix future... | | | Hi David, I have stated before that I wish the IIUG Insider could be more positive. As a customer I think there is quite a bit to be positive about. I don't know that much about the sales and marketing sides but there is certainly quite a bit of development going on such as Informix v15. To me this web page looks like marketing: www.hcl-software.com/informix It's rather strange that two companies have no interest in selling a product to new customers: if this is true it would be good to have some insight from IIUG as to why this is, especially on the HCL side where there is no competing product (DB2). I understood from a presentation a few years ago that HCL planned to integrate Informix into its own applications and in as much as I pay attention to these things, HCL Unica now supports Informix. I suspect part of this relates to no Informix talk being selected for the IBM TechXchange conference but when I look at the web site for this conference, it seems this isn't quite true: www.ibm.com/community/ibm-techxchange-catalog/... -
Product Managers discuss new capabilities and the roadmap for multiple IBM Databases. Session Type: Technology Breakout Technical Level: Intermediate Level Miran Badzak, Program Director, IBM
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Sent: 7/24/2023 11:28:00 AM
From: Benjamin Thompson
Subject: RE: Informix future...
Hi David,
I have stated before that I wish the IIUG Insider could be more positive. As a customer I think there is quite a bit to be positive about.
I don't know that much about the sales and marketing sides but there is certainly quite a bit of development going on such as Informix v15. To me this web page looks like marketing: https://www.hcl-software.com/informix
It's rather strange that two companies have no interest in selling a product to new customers: if this is true it would be good to have some insight from IIUG as to why this is, especially on the HCL side where there is no competing product (DB2). I understood from a presentation a few years ago that HCL planned to integrate Informix into its own applications and in as much as I pay attention to these things, HCL Unica now supports Informix.
I suspect part of this relates to no Informix talk being selected for the IBM TechXchange conference but when I look at the web site for this conference, it seems this isn't quite true:
https://www.ibm.com/community/ibm-techxchange-catalog/?search.techtracks=1689786983785003hsvv&search=informix#/
Product Managers discuss new capabilities and the roadmap for multiple IBM Databases.
Session Type: Technology Breakout
Technical Level: Intermediate Level
Miran Badzak, Program Director, IBM
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Benjamin Thompson
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