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  • 1.  A new idea for the new Navigator for i - Add BRMS and AJS

    Posted Wed May 11, 2022 10:29 AM
    For those who are less than impressed with the gutted version of Navigator for i, the official word is there is no timeline for adding BRMS or AJS to the interface.  I was told to use either the Command Line or the Heritage version which will no longer be supported after 2022.  
    I'm so glad they dropped us back about 15 years by cutting the head off of IBM i Graphical Management tools but command line access is no longer an acceptable solution in 2022.  
    I was given a link so we can vote on a new idea to add BRMS and AJS to the new Navigator for i.  That link is below, but it doesn't guarantee the plug-ins will be added.  

    https://ibm-power-systems-cc.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/IBMI-I-2609

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    Michael Garczynski
    Director - SAP Architecture
    DAP Products
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  • 2.  RE: A new idea for the new Navigator for i - Add BRMS and AJS

    Posted Wed May 11, 2022 08:28 PM
    Edited by Satid Singkorapoom Wed May 11, 2022 09:34 PM
    I believe the reason that BRMS is not included in the New Navigator for i is based on a business fact that BRMS is no longer exclusively IBM's product.  A few years ago, development ownership of BRMS product (and I suspect a number of IBMers specializing in BRMS) was transferred from IBM to Help Systems.   It may be more proper to ask Help Systems if it intends to deliver a way to add support for BRMS into the New Navigator GUI.

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    Satid Singkorapoom
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  • 3.  RE: A new idea for the new Navigator for i - Add BRMS and AJS

    Posted Thu May 12, 2022 08:55 AM
    IBM's decision to engage with HelpSystems was their own and from my understanding there was to be no changes in support.  So far there hasn't.  As long as BRMS is still part of my LPP's and I'm paying IBM for the product and support, it is still an IBM product and should not have been gutted from the new Navigator.  Your explanation may apply to BRMS, what about the other missing components like AJS, PowerHA and others.  They also moved Database, Printing and IFS out of the product and into ACS while they are promising to put IFS back.  

    After enduring the changes for many years to get the Navigator product where it was after the Windows product was shutdown, re-tooling the interface without full function was a poor decision.  By announcing the end of the better Navigator interface by 2022 and recommending the 5250 interface as an alternative is beyond acceptable if they still want the platform to be embraced.

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    Michael Garczynski
    Director - SAP Architecture
    DAP Products
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  • 4.  RE: A new idea for the new Navigator for i - Add BRMS and AJS

    Posted Thu May 12, 2022 09:04 AM
    I believe support for BRMS in the new Navigator is coming.
    https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6485241

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    Robert Berendt
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  • 5.  RE: A new idea for the new Navigator for i - Add BRMS and AJS

    Posted Thu May 12, 2022 09:40 PM
    Dear Robert

    I'm afraid you misread the content in the URL you posted.  Please pay attention to this statement :
    [QUOTE]
    Advanced Job Scheduler, BRMS, and PowerHA are not available within New Nav at this time. 
    [UNQUOTE]


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    Satid Singkorapoom
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  • 6.  RE: A new idea for the new Navigator for i - Add BRMS and AJS

    Posted Fri May 13, 2022 07:35 AM
    There is no timeline for delivery of BRMS or AJS according to IBM support.  That is why they provided the link to allow voting for the issue, however, it appears that may only trigger a review to decide if the features should be included.

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    Michael Garczynski
    Director - SAP Architecture
    DAP Products
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  • 7.  RE: A new idea for the new Navigator for i - Add BRMS and AJS

    Posted Fri May 13, 2022 08:07 AM
    I missed the part that a link was provided to allow voting for the issue.  I thought that was something you did on your own to drill it into their heads that you needed this.
    I am not in the "if it isn't green then it isn't a screen" camp but I do my BRMS via 5250.  I use rather simple omit lists though.  I also do not use AJS.  I tend to not vote for something that I don't use, even if it is a good idea.

    But on another vote, IBM takes these "ideas" rather seriously.  I received several emails on the announce date for IBM i 7.5.  Each listing another idea I submitted which was "Delivered" with 7.5

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    Robert Berendt
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