Good morning,

We are running RDi in a Citrix environment, and are currently in the process of moving from 9.6 to 9.8.

At RDi 9.8, the default location of configuration files seems to have changed. Where 9.6 defaulted to <user-home-dir>/.eclipse/<product-id>_<product-version>/configuration, 9.8 defaults to <install_area>/configuration. 

I found that I could set osgi.configuration.area in RDi.ini - and that successfully created configuration folders in the location I specify (under @user.home) - but it also has the effect of installing plugins in that location which we don't want. We want plugins to install to a shared location so that we can install/update them for all developers. 

I've found the following topic in Eclipse help... https://help.eclipse.org/latest/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Freference%2Fmisc%2Fmulti_user_installs.html but I'm not still quite clear on how to configure things to meet our needs (i.e. how 9.6 worked - each user has their own area where configuration settings are stored, but plugins are loaded from the install area/plugins folder etc)

Can anyone point me to a good explainer on this or can advise how to configure RDi to meet our needs please?

Thank you

Stuart

Hi Stuart,

Here are the settings to review:
https://help.eclipse.org/latest/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Freference%2Fmisc%2Fruntime-options.html&cp%3D2_1_6_0 

The setting that seems relevant is "osgi.configuration.cascaded".

Here is a thread from the citrix community:
https://community.citrix.com/forums/topic/243809-problems-of-publishing-eclipse-ide-on-citrix/#_=_

Here is a Windows blog for users of Windows:
https://jeremystein.com/brain/eclipse-with-multiple-users/

Hope this helps!

Good morning,

We are running RDi in a Citrix environment, and are currently in the process of moving from 9.6 to 9.8.

At RDi 9.8, the default location of configuration files seems to have changed. Where 9.6 defaulted to <user-home-dir>/.eclipse/<product-id>_<product-version>/configuration, 9.8 defaults to <install_area>/configuration. 

I found that I could set osgi.configuration.area in RDi.ini - and that successfully created configuration folders in the location I specify (under @user.home) - but it also has the effect of installing plugins in that location which we don't want. We want plugins to install to a shared location so that we can install/update them for all developers. 

I've found the following topic in Eclipse help... https://help.eclipse.org/latest/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Freference%2Fmisc%2Fmulti_user_installs.html but I'm not still quite clear on how to configure things to meet our needs (i.e. how 9.6 worked - each user has their own area where configuration settings are stored, but plugins are loaded from the install area/plugins folder etc)

Can anyone point me to a good explainer on this or can advise how to configure RDi to meet our needs please?

Thank you

Stuart

Thank you Steve, 

A combination of setting that value to true, and setting the application install folder to read only for non-administrator users seems to have done the trick - I will need to run RDi as an admin when remoted in to the server to install/update plugins for other users but that's no hardship. 

Hi Stuart,

Here are the settings to review:
https://help.eclipse.org/latest/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Freference%2Fmisc%2Fruntime-options.html&cp%3D2_1_6_0 

The setting that seems relevant is "osgi.configuration.cascaded".

Here is a thread from the citrix community:
https://community.citrix.com/forums/topic/243809-problems-of-publishing-eclipse-ide-on-citrix/#_=_

Here is a Windows blog for users of Windows:
https://jeremystein.com/brain/eclipse-with-multiple-users/

Hope this helps!

Good morning,

We are running RDi in a Citrix environment, and are currently in the process of moving from 9.6 to 9.8.

At RDi 9.8, the default location of configuration files seems to have changed. Where 9.6 defaulted to <user-home-dir>/.eclipse/<product-id>_<product-version>/configuration, 9.8 defaults to <install_area>/configuration. 

I found that I could set osgi.configuration.area in RDi.ini - and that successfully created configuration folders in the location I specify (under @user.home) - but it also has the effect of installing plugins in that location which we don't want. We want plugins to install to a shared location so that we can install/update them for all developers. 

I've found the following topic in Eclipse help... https://help.eclipse.org/latest/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Freference%2Fmisc%2Fmulti_user_installs.html but I'm not still quite clear on how to configure things to meet our needs (i.e. how 9.6 worked - each user has their own area where configuration settings are stored, but plugins are loaded from the install area/plugins folder etc)

Can anyone point me to a good explainer on this or can advise how to configure RDi to meet our needs please?

Thank you

Stuart

Hi,

Since we need to use a jumpserver for remote support, I'm trying to setup RDi 9.8 in a multi user environment as well (not Citrix however) and found this thread however my attempts are less successful. The problem is that with a normal install (actually just dropping the IBM Rational Developer for i folder on a drive, it fails with a "log is null" message for the second user that attempts to launch RDi.

When I add...

osgi.configuration.area=@user.home/Local Settings/Application Data/Eclipse/configuration

osgi.sharedConfiguration.area=INSTALL_DIR/configuration

osgi.configuration.cascaded=true

... it seems to solve this (BTW I changed /LocalSettings/Application Data/ to /Documents/ as the first is not accessible) for just working in RDi.

But then it starts to act very strange when I update to 9.8.0.4 (which during the restart dumps)... for the first user it makes the icon a red square and I don't see the About details anymore), while for the second user it still says 9.8.0.0 ???

I tried playing with the cascaded but it keeps on acting weird... of course I want a setup which the administrator can upgrade (but it should do so for each user, actually there should be only one copy of RDi while it now seems to put plugins for each user - which is the reason someone else see 9.8.0.0 maybe ?).

Any tips on how to get this going are appreciated.

Kind regards,
Paul

Thank you Steve, 

A combination of setting that value to true, and setting the application install folder to read only for non-administrator users seems to have done the trick - I will need to run RDi as an admin when remoted in to the server to install/update plugins for other users but that's no hardship. 

Hi Stuart,

Here are the settings to review:
https://help.eclipse.org/latest/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Freference%2Fmisc%2Fruntime-options.html&cp%3D2_1_6_0 

The setting that seems relevant is "osgi.configuration.cascaded".

Here is a thread from the citrix community:
https://community.citrix.com/forums/topic/243809-problems-of-publishing-eclipse-ide-on-citrix/#_=_

Here is a Windows blog for users of Windows:
https://jeremystein.com/brain/eclipse-with-multiple-users/

Hope this helps!

Good morning,

We are running RDi in a Citrix environment, and are currently in the process of moving from 9.6 to 9.8.

At RDi 9.8, the default location of configuration files seems to have changed. Where 9.6 defaulted to <user-home-dir>/.eclipse/<product-id>_<product-version>/configuration, 9.8 defaults to <install_area>/configuration. 

I found that I could set osgi.configuration.area in RDi.ini - and that successfully created configuration folders in the location I specify (under @user.home) - but it also has the effect of installing plugins in that location which we don't want. We want plugins to install to a shared location so that we can install/update them for all developers. 

I've found the following topic in Eclipse help... https://help.eclipse.org/latest/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Freference%2Fmisc%2Fmulti_user_installs.html but I'm not still quite clear on how to configure things to meet our needs (i.e. how 9.6 worked - each user has their own area where configuration settings are stored, but plugins are loaded from the install area/plugins folder etc)

Can anyone point me to a good explainer on this or can advise how to configure RDi to meet our needs please?

Thank you

Stuart

Hi Stuart,

Here are the settings to review:
https://help.eclipse.org/latest/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Freference%2Fmisc%2Fruntime-options.html&cp%3D2_1_6_0 

The setting that seems relevant is "osgi.configuration.cascaded".

Here is a thread from the citrix community:
https://community.citrix.com/forums/topic/243809-problems-of-publishing-eclipse-ide-on-citrix/#_=_

Here is a Windows blog for users of Windows:
https://jeremystein.com/brain/eclipse-with-multiple-users/

Hope this helps!

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Steve Ferrell
Principal Software Engineer Lead RDi
Fortra
https://www.youtube.com/@SteveFerrellRDiVideos

Original Message:
Sent: Wed June 26, 2024 04:58 AM
From: Stuart Bramley
Subject: Multi User (Citrix) RDi 9.8 installation/configuration

Good morning,

We are running RDi in a Citrix environment, and are currently in the process of moving from 9.6 to 9.8.

At RDi 9.8, the default location of configuration files seems to have changed. Where 9.6 defaulted to <user-home-dir>/.eclipse/<product-id>_<product-version>/configuration, 9.8 defaults to <install_area>/configuration. 

I found that I could set osgi.configuration.area in RDi.ini - and that successfully created configuration folders in the location I specify (under @user.home) - but it also has the effect of installing plugins in that location which we don't want. We want plugins to install to a shared location so that we can install/update them for all developers. 

I've found the following topic in Eclipse help... https://help.eclipse.org/latest/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Freference%2Fmisc%2Fmulti_user_installs.html but I'm not still quite clear on how to configure things to meet our needs (i.e. how 9.6 worked - each user has their own area where configuration settings are stored, but plugins are loaded from the install area/plugins folder etc)

Can anyone point me to a good explainer on this or can advise how to configure RDi to meet our needs please?

Thank you

Stuart

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Stuart Bramley
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