We're currently running Maximo 7.6.2 with 40 concurrent users, all of whom are full users. We're now looking at moving to MAS 9.x, and I'm trying to wrap my head around how the App Points model translates from our current setup.

From what I've gathered so far, a concurrent user in MAS seems to map roughly to a Premium user (~15 points). So in a very simple calculation:

• 40 users × 15 points = 600 App Points

In my head, that should give us equivalent full access to manage - including functionality for industry solutions like Oil & Gas.

But honestly… it feels a bit too straightforward, and I suspect I'm missing something.

Hi Robbie,

In MAS you have concurrent and authorized users. The 15 points you mentioned are for Premium concurrent users whereas Premium authorized users are 5 points each. Authorised users "reserve" the points at all times, so they can always login. Remaining points for a pool that concurrent users draw from when they login, returning the points when they log out.

The final answer depends on your user's usage profile. If you need all of them to always be able to login at all times, then you wouldn't use concurrent like in your sample calculation, you will set them as authorised:

40 users x 5 points = 200 App Points

For comparison purposes, let's say you want only 2 admins as authorised, and the others to share a pool of 180 App points, meaning out of the 38 remaining users only 12 can be logged in at the same time: 

2 authorised users x 5 points + 180 points for concurrent = 190 App Points

Some more details here: AppPoints Maximo Application Suite 9.0 and earlier - IBM Documentation

Regards

Gabriel

We're currently running Maximo 7.6.2 with 40 concurrent users, all of whom are full users. We're now looking at moving to MAS 9.x, and I'm trying to wrap my head around how the App Points model translates from our current setup.

From what I've gathered so far, a concurrent user in MAS seems to map roughly to a Premium user (~15 points). So in a very simple calculation:

• 40 users × 15 points = 600 App Points

In my head, that should give us equivalent full access to manage - including functionality for industry solutions like Oil & Gas.

But honestly… it feels a bit too straightforward, and I suspect I'm missing something.

We're currently running Maximo 7.6.2 with 40 concurrent users, all of whom are full users. We're now looking at moving to MAS 9.x, and I'm trying to wrap my head around how the App Points model translates from our current setup.

From what I've gathered so far, a concurrent user in MAS seems to map roughly to a Premium user (~15 points). So in a very simple calculation:

• 40 users × 15 points = 600 App Points

In my head, that should give us equivalent full access to manage - including functionality for industry solutions like Oil & Gas.

But honestly… it feels a bit too straightforward, and I suspect I'm missing something.

Maximo IT is licensed via a separate app point. This was formerly called Control Desk but if you have that, you need both the MAS App Points for the user and the Maximo IT app points for the user. For everything else, the maximum number of app points an individual user can consume is 15 which is for a concurrent premium user and/or a full system administrator. When you provide administrative access (user management and/or full suite administration), the user is made Authorized (not concurrent) and will consume those app points even when the user is not logged in. 

In addition to user point consumption, some industry solutions/add-ons and products require app points for the install as well. Spatial for example will consume 20 app points per Production system. Unlike 7.6 where you needed to license the install-based products for production and non-production systems, you only need to license production systems in MAS. Some customers have more than 1 Production Maximo instance and you would need to license each of those at that 20-app point threshold. Optimizer, Asset Investment Planning, Visual Inspection, SAP Adapter, and others have install-based app point consumption. Some of the newer features like the Maximo Assistant are based on consumption so you will need to allocate app points to cover that if you intend to use it, but it's more complicated in estimating how many app points you need. 

We're currently running Maximo 7.6.2 with 40 concurrent users, all of whom are full users. We're now looking at moving to MAS 9.x, and I'm trying to wrap my head around how the App Points model translates from our current setup.

From what I've gathered so far, a concurrent user in MAS seems to map roughly to a Premium user (~15 points). So in a very simple calculation:

• 40 users × 15 points = 600 App Points

In my head, that should give us equivalent full access to manage - including functionality for industry solutions like Oil & Gas.

But honestly… it feels a bit too straightforward, and I suspect I'm missing something.

Hi Steven, very helpful but looks like there is no straightforward way of knowing how many points are required to manage any single deployment. This appears to make it hard to arrive at any sort of budgetary figure required for financial approval.

Maximo IT is licensed via a separate app point. This was formerly called Control Desk but if you have that, you need both the MAS App Points for the user and the Maximo IT app points for the user. For everything else, the maximum number of app points an individual user can consume is 15 which is for a concurrent premium user and/or a full system administrator. When you provide administrative access (user management and/or full suite administration), the user is made Authorized (not concurrent) and will consume those app points even when the user is not logged in. 

In addition to user point consumption, some industry solutions/add-ons and products require app points for the install as well. Spatial for example will consume 20 app points per Production system. Unlike 7.6 where you needed to license the install-based products for production and non-production systems, you only need to license production systems in MAS. Some customers have more than 1 Production Maximo instance and you would need to license each of those at that 20-app point threshold. Optimizer, Asset Investment Planning, Visual Inspection, SAP Adapter, and others have install-based app point consumption. Some of the newer features like the Maximo Assistant are based on consumption so you will need to allocate app points to cover that if you intend to use it, but it's more complicated in estimating how many app points you need. 

We're currently running Maximo 7.6.2 with 40 concurrent users, all of whom are full users. We're now looking at moving to MAS 9.x, and I'm trying to wrap my head around how the App Points model translates from our current setup.

From what I've gathered so far, a concurrent user in MAS seems to map roughly to a Premium user (~15 points). So in a very simple calculation:

• 40 users × 15 points = 600 App Points

In my head, that should give us equivalent full access to manage - including functionality for industry solutions like Oil & Gas.

But honestly… it feels a bit too straightforward, and I suspect I'm missing something.