Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

Hello, group

This may be a FAQ, but I have googled and found out how to install
bff, how to create bff, but not how to get the bff i want from IBM.

The situation is:
I try to install fix for APAR IY46668. To get this, I went to IBM's
site, found APAR, chosen "Get fix for this APAR", provided oslevel
(5200-03 on pSeries machine) and results of lslpp -Lc and got the list
of bff files to download.

I've downloaded them, tried to install with smit and got response that
there are missing reqisites:
cluster.adt.es.client.include 4.5.0.0
cluster.adt.es.client.samples.clinfo 4.5.0.0
cluster.adt.es.client.samples.demos 4.5.0.0
cluster.adt.es.client.samples.libcl 4.5.0.0
cluster.adt.es.server.samples.demos 4.5.0.0
cluster.es.client.lib 4.5.0.0
cluster.es.cspoc.rte 4.5.0.0
cluster.es.server.events 4.5.0.0
cluster.es.server.rte 4.5.0.0
cluster.es.server.utils 4.5.0.0

Now, how do I get these specific bff files?
Searching IBM's site for them returns some APAR fixes with newer
versions of them...

I'm stuck.

rmikke

Originally posted by: orphy

Is this an HACMP cluster node? It doesn't appear to be the case to me
since you don't even have the base filesets installed. Assuming that this
is not a cluster node, you can just ignore these warnings. Or, you can
remove all the cluster* filesets, run inutoc, and try applying the filesets
again.
Orphy

Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

OK, then now for something completely different...

I suppose that IBM's site creates a list of BFFs basing on my oslevel and results od lslpp -Lc. That would mean that the BFFs proposed by the search engine are the only packages missing to fix the APAR.
Therefore, if all those BFFs are for HACMP that means that I don't need to install anything.

Am I right?

rmikke

Originally posted by: orphy

So that fix is supposed to be for Java huh? That's the problem! It's JAVA!!!

Now, I don't understand why IBM would force you to apply all these HACMP filesets before letting you updating Java. If you don't have a PMR with them already, you might want to open one and chat with them about it.

As for getting specific filesets, you can share by fileset in Fix Central rather than by APAR. When you do it that way, you can select specific filesets to download. However, you are not able to get base filesets using this method (only fixex) since these are licensed products and, for obvious money reason, you are supposed to talk to Sales...
Orphy

Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

Well, the fix is for Java, but the list of BFFs returned by IBM site a fix for this APAR (IY46668) are also for HACMP (they are just newer versions of missing BFFs) Hence my question: does that mean that I simply don't need them on non-HACMP machine?

As for base filesets: OK, I understand that I have to buy them. Most probably I have them somewhere in my company - what disk should I be looking for?

rmikke

Originally posted by: orphy

I wouldn't put those HACMP updates on a non-HA box. Without the HA base filesets,
you simply couldn't/shouldn't put the updates there anyway. As I said before,
I'm not sure why they would tell you to load all those HA updates for a Java
APAR. I suggest you opening a PMR with IBM if you really care about applying
fixes for IY4668.

As for the CDs, you could look for something like "High Availability Cluster Multi-Processing (HACMP)" though I haven't seen those CDs for a while so I don't
have the exact descriptions on the CDs.
Orphy

Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

I think rmikke has a very good question and point. I also wasn't able to find specefic .bff files in the past. I guess the question here is in case you want to download specefic bff files for any reason how do we go about that? Is there a repository with all the files?

Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by: MichaelAM

Personally, I never use the APAR option to get a specific file. Instead I use the option for specific fixes.

From the quicklinks page: http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/sas/f/genunix3/aixfixes.html select the specific fixes link (as you may have been already).
In the form enter something like "JAVA sdk" and press enter. Find the specific file you want, and then click on "Add to my download list". If there are other fileset names you wnat to be sure to get, search and add them too. Then press Continue.

This is the page where you can enter the lslpp -Lc file (for reference). What is also important about this page are the three check boxes: 1) include requisites; 2) include fixes that fix regressions; 3) replace superseded with latest. Basically, if you want only these files, uncheck the boxes. However, if you want the filesets that are required to install these files, click include requistites. If you want the search for requirements to go a bit farther then add fix regressions. At this level you are fairly close to what I would call a "patched patch". The last checkbox is just to get the latest of any invloved fileset regardless of reason.

To get back to lslpp -Lc: this is to lessen the amount of files you would need to download (as mentioned earlier). If a fileset is already installed, it will not be included in the download list.

Lastly, even though I know there are filesets (in particular language files) I wont need, I choose the ftp option, and download the files using nohup, .netrc, and ftp. For an short guide on how to do this please view: http://rootvg.net/content/view/123/93/

Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

Thank you. That's pretty helpful.