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  • 1.  AIX 7.1 Will be on Fee-based service extension state soon, Cust's concern questions.

    Posted Tue November 22, 2022 04:42 AM
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    Hi AIX and System P team,


    Our client having many AIX 7.1 servers running (No plan Or not able to upgrade to 7.2 soon).
    By reference the  AIX roadmap
    in URL: https://www.ibm.com/downloads/cas/O1YP5RYZ (Figure 1. Support timeline for future generations of AIX)
    and https://www.ibm.com/downloads/cas/knvx8vwr

    Here are our client's concern questions and raise to IBM support?

    1. Please explanation about "Fee-based service extension"?

    2. If customer servers stay running AIX 7.1 in Fee-based service extension period.
       - Do our customer needs to purchase the extras services such as extension services?
       Or
      - If customer NOT purchase the extras services such as extension services.
           -- What about the support case? Do they still able to continue to open case support?
          -- Is there any limitation or conditions if customer still running AIX 7.1 during Fee-based service extension period?
    Best regards,
    Charin Kumjudpai (AIX local support)


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    CHARIN KUMJUDPAI
    charin@th.ibm.com
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  • 2.  RE: AIX 7.1 Will be on Fee-based service extension state soon, Cust's concern questions.

    Posted Wed November 23, 2022 06:47 AM

    Charin,

    Perhaps, you are new to IBM and do not realise this is a worldwide public forum.
    I think it would be best if you ask such questions on the IBM internal Slack workspace "IBM Power" and channel "AIX".

    In short: "Fee-based service extension" is a higher price and less proactive IBM Support for your old AIX versions.

    For example, customers are less likely to get bug fixes built and tested. The fix might already be in newer AIX versions.

    I think customers need to sort out paying for the extension each year. Newer HMCs will also be warning you when if works out your AIX support has ended.

    If the customer does not pay for the extension then they are not supported at all.

    Please recommend your customers upgrade to AIX 7.2 or AIX 7.3.

    It is simple to do. Particularly, if the upgrade is to a spare alternative disk(s). This allows a very quick and clean back out of the upgrade and an online backup for previous rootvg files.
    AIX fantastic backward compatibility- if your applications run on AIX 7.1 they WILL run just fine on AIX 7.2/AIX 7.3 and IBM guarantees that.
    They will also be better performance with newer AIX levels and 100% full IBM support.
    Cheers, N



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    Nigel Griffiths
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  • 3.  RE: AIX 7.1 Will be on Fee-based service extension state soon, Cust's concern questions.

    Posted Thu November 24, 2022 01:35 AM

    Hello Nigel Griffiths,

    Thank you for  feedback  about this.

    However, about our BP and customer have with concern questions for "Fee-based service extension".

    I've tried to searching  IBM internal such as W3, Salesforce and Google  but there no official IBM's doc was reference or mention about "Fee-based service extension".

    That's why i post in community channel.

    And I am wondering  about the AIX  roadmap document was created by IBM Power Product, why  there no document or  more detail  for each strategy roadmap state?


    Thank you so much for your feed back.


    Best regards,
    Charin Kumjudpai (IBMTH, AIX local support)



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    CHARIN KUMJUDPAI
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  • 4.  RE: AIX 7.1 Will be on Fee-based service extension state soon, Cust's concern questions.

    Posted Sat November 26, 2022 06:28 PM

    When I looked it was tricky to find details.
    This below diagram showing the fee-based service extension period for AIX 7.1.

    If I find more public information I will let you know:



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    Nigel Griffiths
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  • 5.  RE: AIX 7.1 Will be on Fee-based service extension state soon, Cust's concern questions.

    Posted Sun November 27, 2022 11:09 PM
    Hello Nigel Griffiths,

    I am really appreciate for your are on going to finding more detail about this for our customer concern questions.

    Regards,
    Charin Kumjudpai (IBMTH as AIX SW support)

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    CHARIN KUMJUDPAI
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  • 6.  RE: AIX 7.1 Will be on Fee-based service extension state soon, Cust's concern questions.

    Posted Mon November 28, 2022 12:24 PM

    Well, a "road map" is all about future plans and has legal implications.

    • What happens if IBM changes its mind about the features or timescales?
    • IBM can't reach out to every Laptop in the world with updated information.

    Some companies love to talk about future products and dates and then repeatedly fail to deliver the product and / or date.

    • Everyone knows to take any statements as future possible dreams and with a "pinch of salt!"
    • IBM prefers to keep plans to itself and then make Official Announcements when it is ready.

    IBM may share some details at online webinars and conferences but does not like to leave a hard copy.

    The start date for the fee-based support extension is flexible and follows the Withdrawal of regular support and the end date is some years later.  These dates are not "cast in stone".  At the end date, AIX will not explode or halt and refuse to reboot!

    But people do get weird ideas. The chart showing AIX Release Streams extended, at one time, to say 2030 - we found people writing articles that AIX was going to be cancelled in 2030 and withdrawn forever and claim it was official and quoted the chart (including the Copyright IBM statement).  So I made a chart including 2200 for the next conference.



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    Nigel Griffiths
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