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  • 1.  SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted Wed September 16, 2020 10:57 AM
    Hi All
    could you please let me know, if anyone tried integrating B2Bi with S4hana using SAP suite adapters? Any different from R/3?

    thanks

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    Rags
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  • 2.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted Thu September 17, 2020 03:29 AM
    Hi Rags,

    As far as I know, SAP S4 HANA is a completely redesigned product. I see an RFE. I would suggest you to vote so, that IBM offering manager can prioritize accordingly.

    https://watsonsupplychain.ideas.aha.io/ideas/B2BI-I-465

    Hope this helps.

    Kishore

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  • 3.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted Fri September 18, 2020 09:08 AM

    In our current project we're successfully using the "SAP Suite Adapter for JCo 3.x" service in IBM Sterling B2B Integrator 6.0.2.1 to integrate with SAP S4 HANA. We're using exactly the same methodology that we've used previously with SAP R/3.

     

    Trevor Richards






  • 4.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted 17 days ago

    Hi Trevor. 

    We are exactly in the same boat as yours.  How about the Material length extending from 18 Characters to 40 Characters ? Did you incorporate this change in your S/4 HANA Migration. Did that impat your IBM Sterling Integrator ? Do we need to completly remap in IBM Sterling Integrator because of this change ? 

    Appreciate your insights. 

    Thanks,
    Hari 



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  • 5.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted 16 days ago

    Hello,

    Expanding the Material Number (MATNR) length from 18 to 40 characters during the S/4HANA migration can affect IBM Sterling B2B Integrator (SI) in several ways.

    First, you need to check how this change impacts EDI mappings. If Material Numbers are used in transactions like 850, 810, or 856, confirm whether the target format supports 40 characters. Standards like ANSI X12 and EDIFACT may have field length limits, so you might need to truncate or split the values.

    Next, review Business Processes (BPML) to ensure scripts and rules handling Material Numbers can process 40-character values correctly. If you have JavaScript or BP rules checking the MATNR length, update them accordingly.

    Also, verify that your database, logs, and mailbox files in Sterling can store the expanded values without issues. Another key factor is trading partner compatibility. Contact your partners to confirm they can process 40-character Material Numbers in inbound and outbound transactions. If they still expect 18 characters, you may need to apply truncation or transformation rules. To address this issue, update your EDI maps to support the new field length, adjusting rules as needed. Modify BPML scripts or any custom logic that processes Material Numbers. Conduct end-to-end testing in a lower environment to ensure partners can handle the change. A complete remap is usually not required updating existing maps should be enough unless there are dependencies on string manipulation or validation logic, in which case partial remapping may be needed.

    Hope this helps!



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    navyakanth surugu
    IT Architect
    Motion Industries
    Birmingham AL
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  • 6.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted 16 days ago

    Hi Navvakanth,

     

    Thank you so much for your detailed explanation. This will help us a lot.

     

    Also, I do have a one more question.

     

    We are leaning towards NOT extending Material Number to 40 characters as it's drastically increasing the project scope and also extending material number to 40 is not mandatory.

     

    So, will there be any other potential impact that should be considered with respect to S/4 HANA Migration from an IBM Sterling Integrator standpoint ?

     

     

    Thank you,

    Hari Sadhu

     






  • 7.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted 16 days ago

    Hello Hari, 

    As per my knowledge, this should not have any impact. I would double check to see if there are any internal dependencies.

    Thanks!



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    navyakanth surugu
    IT Architect
    Motion Industries
    Birmingham AL
    2199298595
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  • 8.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted Fri September 18, 2020 09:08 AM
    B2BI SAP Adapters configuration uses one URL/1 IP,  But HANA does not seem to function in that way. So check with SAP team to see if HANA can use as SAP web dispatcher., which would act as LB in front of the cluster.  If not,  please vote the below mentioned RFE, so that it can be taken up as enhancement.

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  • 9.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted Fri September 18, 2020 09:13 AM
    In our current project we're successfully using the "SAP Suite Adapter for JCo 3.x" service in IBM Sterling B2B Integrator 6.0.2.1 to integrate with SAP S4 HANA. We're using exactly the same methodology that we've used previously with SAP R/3.

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    Trevor Richards
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  • 10.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted Mon September 21, 2020 09:04 AM
    SAP has made a lot of changes to the infrastructure along the way. S4 introduced a new all Java stack and also optionally includes the old CPIC based stack that B2Bi uses. The big catch is that during the product installation time you have to choose if you want to use the CPIC, Java or both. If you make the wrong choice you will have to reinstall SAP to include the other components. If they choose to install in dual stack mode, our existing adapters will work fine. If they installed in new Java only stack B2Bi will not function. We need to do the above RFE at some point since SAP will not support the dual stack mode for ever.

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    Mark Murnighan
    Solution Architect
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  • 11.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted Mon September 21, 2020 11:07 AM
    We're successfully using the "SAP Suite Adapter for JCo 3.x" service to communicate using ALE between IBM Sterling B2B Integrator 6.0.2.1 and SAP S4 HANA in our current project.

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    Trevor Richards
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  • 12.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted Mon September 21, 2020 11:07 AM
    In our current project we're successfully using the "SAP Suite Adapter for JCo 3.x" service in IBM Sterling Integrator 6.0.2.1 to integrate with SAP S4 HANA via ALE. We're using exactly the same methodology that we used with SAP R/3.

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    Trevor Richards
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  • 13.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted Mon September 21, 2020 11:18 AM
    We're successfully using the "SAP Suite Adapter for JCo 3.x" service to communicate using ALE between IBM Sterling B2B Integrator 6.0.2.1 and SAP S4 HANA in our current project.

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    Trevor Richards
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  • 14.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted Sat October 03, 2020 11:17 AM
    Thanks Trevor

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    Rags
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  • 15.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted Mon September 13, 2021 10:42 AM
    SAP released SAP S/4HANA 1709 which integrates SAP B2Bi with SAP Hana Cloud Platform to produce SAP Fiori app. It previously required SAP BW or SAP Business Warehouse 7.3 but SAP BW is now replaced by SAP Data Hub.
    SAP describes their strategy for this integration as follows:
    SAP is continuously simplifying the SAP S/4HANA Cloud platform and SAP Fiori App by removing redundant, overlapping or even unused components. SAP BW and SAP Hana Cloud Platform (HCP) deliver capabilities that were once exclusively available with SAP BW. Today, we took another step to simplify this landscape: B2B Collaboration components SAP Gateway, SAP Process Orchestration (SAP PO) and SAP Integration have been replaced with SAP Data Hub. SAP Data Hub serves as a substitute for SAP BW and SAP HCP: it allows you to combine data from multiple sources and process them in real time. The same applies to SAP S/4HANA Cloud SAP Fiori apps that were previously built around SAP BW and SAP HCP.


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  • 16.  RE: SAP S4Hana Integration with B2Bi

    Posted Tue February 01, 2022 05:23 PM
    Hello,

    we have connected several B2Bi instances with S/4HANA systems.
    You can use the SAP Suite adapter for it.
    If you want to exchange idocs with SAP you can also use HTTP as protocol as SAP has a built in HTTP server and client for idoc exchange.

    Best regards
    Manuel

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    Manuel Frank
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