I'm glad that you agree that the rotating element is something that needs to be standard. Thank you for pointing out a simple solution too. I have added my vote to the Idea!
Original Message:
Sent: Thu August 22, 2024 09:21 AM
From: Andrew Jeffery
Subject: add two field in dialog windows Generate New Assets
Hi Craig - Asset Templates started out as part of Calibration where I believe support for Rotating Items was provided, that is why you will find ITEMNUM, ITEMSETID and ITEMTYPE in the PLUSCTEMPLATE application. When Calibration was brought into the core these fields were hidden, so easy to enable them.
The issue is that the only fields that do not get copied are these three fields, if the field names align between PLUSCTEMPLATE and ASSET the fields are copied and updated. You can use a crossover domain on ASSET.TEMPLATEID and you can then create rotating assets.
You can review this article/YouTube video https://maximosecrets.com/2022/07/29/asset-templates-2/
I did create an Idea - https://ibm-ai-apps.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/MASM-I-874
18 months ago it was not under consideration (because of my workaround). It looks like there is a few Asset Template Ideas - but this needs more than 3 votes to gain traction. I thinking marking something as Not Under Consideration generally kills off the idea but I've asked for IBM to reconsider. The big use case is how do you populate assets when you decide to turn an item into a rotating item, the manual method sucks, asset templates with rotating item solves the problem.
Regards - Andrew
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Andrew Jeffery
Maximo SME
ZNAPZ b.v
Barnstaple
0777 1847873
Original Message:
Sent: Thu August 22, 2024 05:31 AM
From: Craig Kokay
Subject: add two field in dialog windows Generate New Assets
Hi Adolfo,
I think there is confusion interpreting what the asset template does/is.
I have a bunch of assets that need to be created in Maximo. Usually, they fall into some sort of grouping i.e. asset type, specifications, item numbers and any combo of that. The template is used to then generate those assets as you're not importing via a PO using a rotating item instead.
I have 10 pumps, I will end up creating 10 pumps. I use one asset template. Now what if the 5 are centrifugal and 5 and reciprocal? Well, I need two asset templates as they will have different specifications. I have the specification designed to generate the asset's description, therefore on the asset template I leave that field blank. That is an advantage of using the classifications.
In your words, you say that they all need to have different descriptions. That is not the purpose of a template. The template is the 'image' of an asset that I would like to copy. Once I have made the copies, then I can change things, but again why?
Let's roll back to the pumps. Of the 5 reciprocating pumps, 3 have a flow rate of 3 gallons/min, and 2 at 5 gallons/min. This means that I need yet another asset template. Now, I have up to 3 asset templates, all pumps (asset type), but based on the specification and virtually different.
This table shows you the result.
Asset # | Description | Asset Type | Classification Path |
21787232 | Centrifugal Pump, 10 GPM Flow Rate | PUMP | Pump \ Centrifugal |
21787233 | Centrifugal Pump, 10 GPM Flow Rate | PUMP | Pump \ Centrifugal |
21787234 | Centrifugal Pump, 10 GPM Flow Rate | PUMP | Pump \ Centrifugal |
21787235 | Centrifugal Pump, 10 GPM Flow Rate | PUMP | Pump \ Centrifugal |
21787236 | Centrifugal Pump, 10 GPM Flow Rate | PUMP | Pump \ Centrifugal |
21787237 | Reciprocating Pump, 3 GPM Flow Rate | PUMP | Pump \ Reciprocating |
21787238 | Reciprocating Pump, 3 GPM Flow Rate | PUMP | Pump \ Reciprocating |
21787239 | Reciprocating Pump, 3 GPM Flow Rate | PUMP | Pump \ Reciprocating |
21787240 | Reciprocating Pump, 5 GPM Flow Rate | PUMP | Pump \ Reciprocating |
21787241 | Reciprocating Pump, 5 GPM Flow Rate | PUMP | Pump \ Reciprocating |
There is one major flaw with asset templates. You cannot assign a rotating item. This has several impacts down the chain, especially when reordering for replacements, searching for common assets (save for the classification, if used), any PMs.
You could say that the PM's are taken care of by the use of the Master PM's, but another flaw is that these are not automatically created except when you receive a rotating item linked on a Master PM. For asset templates, you do not need the master PM to have an item. It seems that whoever developed the asset template did not take into account rotating items.
With that information in our head, let's revisit once more your comment "generate the asset but with different information." I stand by my question Why? Has this given you some thought, change it, answered it? Let us know.
The community is here is help, but there are times we all need more context. Can I encourage everyone to add just that bit more detail because you know your requirements and business process, we don't. We do have a good idea of how Maximo fits together.
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Regards, Craig Kokay
Principle Consultant, COSOL
https://cosol.global/
Ph: +61-411-682-040
email: craig.kokay@cosol.global
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Original Message:
Sent: Wed August 21, 2024 11:41 AM
From: Adolfo Angel Garcia Martinez
Subject: add two field in dialog windows Generate New Assets
Hi, that's correct, but it copies the same information to each asset. What I'm looking for is a way to generate the asset but with different information.
In each record I'll show you an example.
Each new asset generated must have a different description and a different asset type.
![](https://dw1.s81c.com//IMWUC/MessageImages/f95977be2ac64d71b53929940dccf532.png)
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Adolfo Angel Garcia Martinez
Original Message:
Sent: Wed August 21, 2024 11:32 AM
From: Andrew Jeffery
Subject: add two field in dialog windows Generate New Assets
Hi Adolfo,
You don't need the fields in the Generate New Assets dialog. In the main page of the Asset Template there is a field for Asset Description and Asset Type in the Details section. Just enter your values there and the data will be copied to your new assets. All the fields you see on the main page are copied to the new assets.
Regards - Andrew
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Andrew Jeffery
Maximo SME
ZNAPZ b.v
Barnstaple
0777 1847873
Original Message:
Sent: Wed August 21, 2024 11:00 AM
From: Adolfo Angel Garcia Martinez
Subject: add two field in dialog windows Generate New Assets
hi
This is the dialog window
![](https://dw1.s81c.com//IMWUC/MessageImages/05f6ca046f2d4eedafa84c87547be8f8.png)
What I'm trying to do is add the description and aseettype fields and copy this information to the new generated assets.
I added the description and aseettype fields to the non-persistent PLUSCPREGENASSET table. How could I do a cross-domain or something so that the fields are passed to the new generated assets?
regards
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Adolfo Angel Garcia Martinez
Original Message:
Sent: Wed August 21, 2024 12:55 AM
From: Jan-Willem Steur
Subject: add two field in dialog windows Generate New Assets
Hi Adolfo,
It would be helpful to be more explicit about which dialog box and in which application you want to achieve this action (could be asset templates, receiving new assets from a purchase order, etc.). If I know which application you are using to create the new assets, then I can find out which MBO's and relationships are "touched". Normally it can be established by using a new crossover domain or extend an existing crossover domain to "copy" the new added attribute values into the new created asset record.
Reagrds,
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Jan-Willem Steur
Manager Business Development
ZNAPZ b.v.
Breda
+31 6 25639950
Jan-Willem
Original Message:
Sent: Mon August 19, 2024 01:00 PM
From: Adolfo Angel Garcia Martinez
Subject: add two field in dialog windows Generate New Assets
Hello, I added two fields in the dialog box to generate news assets.
The issue is that these two fields are not saved when creating the assets.
How could I solve this part?
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Adolfo Angel Garcia Martinez
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