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"Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

  • 1.  "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 29 days ago

    Although it was out there, if you knew where to look, IBM just published the traditional EOS for Power 9 products.
    https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/announcements/services-withdrawal-discontinuance-service-select-power-systems-products-replacements-available



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    Robert Berendt IBMChampion
    Business Systems Analyst, Lead
    Dekko
    Fort Wayne
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  • 2.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 28 days ago

    Hi,

    Any predictions when there will be some info on P9  G-models EOS?

    https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/lifecycle/search?q=9009

    Br,

    tommi



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    Tommi Sihvo, Lead Service Architect
    Tietoevry Tech Services
    email tommi.sihvo@tietoevry.com mobile +358 (0)40 5180 Finland
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  • 3.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 28 days ago
    Edited by Rohit Chauhan 28 days ago

    Hi,

    It is not official yet but EOS for P9 G models can be announced after the new Power 11 based processor models are announced this year. So it can be later 2025 or early 2026 what i know.



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    Rohit Chauhan
    Senior Technical Specialist
    Norway
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  • 4.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 28 days ago

    Rohit,

    Please reread your response.  Did you have the years wrong?  Like, should you add a 1 to both?



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    Robert Berendt IBMChampion
    Business Systems Analyst, Lead
    Dekko
    Fort Wayne
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  • 5.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 28 days ago

    Thanks for pointing out Robert.

    I have added 1 to make it correct now. 



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    Rohit Chauhan
    Senior Technical Specialist
    Norway
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  • 6.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 27 days ago

    Thanks for the information.  We've lots of E980, and those doesn't seems to be in this list.   Any details on those and when they are going to be EoL/EoSL etc.   Thanks



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    Bhuppi
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  • 7.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 27 days ago

    Hi,

    I would assume the same as Rohit said on Scale-out G-models: "It is not official yet but EOS for P9 G models can be announced after the new Power 11 based processor models are announced this year. So it can be later 2025 or early 2026 what i know." 

    Usually High-end frames are the "last to go" ; so most probable timing would H1/2026, but like stated, nothing official yet..

    Br,

    tommi



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    Tommi Sihvo, Lead Service Architect
    Tietoevry Tech Services
    email tommi.sihvo@tietoevry.com mobile +358 (0)40 5180 Finland
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  • 8.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 27 days ago

    I was told by IBM that EOS is usually 5 years after End of Marketing.

    A-Models    EOM 29-Jan-2021    -> EOS 29-Jan-2026
    G-Models    EOM 20-Oct-2023    -> EOS 20-Oct-2028



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    Ralph Meier
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  • 9.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 26 days ago

    Thanks Ralph!

    This was really good news!

    Br,

    tommi



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    Tommi Sihvo, Lead Service Architect
    Tietoevry Tech Services
    email tommi.sihvo@tietoevry.com mobile +358 (0)40 5180 Finland
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  • 10.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 23 days ago
    Edited by Juha Eklund 23 days ago

    Totally agree, as the G-models EOM was couple of years later than the first A-models then EOS should be later about the same time maybe? 



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    Juha Eklund
    Solution Architect
    Valtori
    Helsinki
    0504102291
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  • 11.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 22 days ago

    Hi,

    But any idea when the Power 11 will be announced?

    Thank you

    Abdullahi



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    Abdullahi Muazu
    Enterprise Systems Administrator
    Jaiz Bank Plc
    Abuja
    08162058450
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  • 12.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 22 days ago

    I love making predictions about when new versions of IBM i, etc are coming out.  One, it's relatively predictable.  Two, it's pretty safe.

    Predicting new hardware not so much.  It varies more.  But most importantly, I fear that if I say something which delays someone from buying what is currently on the shelf IBM may come down on me like the wrath of Khan.

    But, if I'm allowed to make a fun meaningless snarky prediction I would say soon solely based on the fact that today I finally got IBM to stop recommending obsolete hardware to replace a Power 9 with another Power 9 and now they are recommending a Power 10.  https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/7093106



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    Robert Berendt IBMChampion
    Business Systems Analyst, Lead
    Dekko
    Fort Wayne
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  • 13.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 22 days ago

    Many people are under the belief that EOS is simply a scare tactic to get customers to buy new hardware.

    IBM does offer a "Hardware Service Extension".  It is not simply the same as regular service with a higher price charge.  Many people will interpret Hardware Service Extension to mean whatever they want it to mean.  

    But what is in the small print?

    1 - Service is based on parts availability.  Oh, you lost hard drive model xyz?  Sorry, we no longer have that in stock.

    2 - New CVEs about security vulnerability will not be addressed.  Normally these are fixed with Firmware updates.  While one might think they'd all be discovered by now (again thinking it means whatever they want it to mean) there has been recent updates in the firmware for just such things.

    3 - Service is based on availability of skilled resources.  Sorry, we no longer have anyone in your branch trained on that old model, but thanks for the maintenance check anyway.

    4 - New issues are not covered.  For example, some hardware in the industry goes totally berserk after x hundred hours of runtime unless you put on a certain patch.  If they discover something like this, you're on your own.  Such runtime issues are really out there and I'm not talking about some hidden gotcha feature some people put out there to ensure you're paying maintenance.

    You can see some of this at:  https://www.itjungle.com/2025/01/27/a-year-from-now-most-power9-systems-bite-the-rust/



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    Robert Berendt IBMChampion
    Business Systems Analyst, Lead
    Dekko
    Fort Wayne
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  • 14.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 22 days ago

    Totally agree.  

    Hardware Service Extension - Like we still have fully supported by IBM a Flash System A9000R, which as per the IBM website is EoSL in 2023 end. 

    New CVEs about security vulnerability - We use HSM version X, that has some vulnerability as flagged by our Security Team, but IBM clearly informed us 'no more new versions'. Live with it.

    Thanks.



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    Bhuppi
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  • 15.  RE: "Pretty" announcement for End Of Support for Power 9.

    Posted 21 days ago

    Another consideration for both hardware and software end of service/service extensions is the longer you wait to upgrade to new hardware/software, the more likely you are to face a more difficult migration.

    We all know n-2 is standard for IBM i Operating system upgrades, and there are always hardware limitations for minimum and maximum OS versions supported.  If you wait too long, you might end up in that situation where you have to do upgrades in steps for both hardware and software.  Full restore from tape?  Is the tape media even compatible?

    The same is true of external storage solutions.  The longer you wait to upgrade, the fewer migration options you have.  All of the good options:  volume mirroring, remote copy, etc. have minimum and maximum software and hardware version compatibility, and even O/S level copying depends on the ability to connect both old and new storage to your O/S.

    Beware the slippery slope.  The further you slide down it, the harder it is to climb back up.



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    Vincent Greene
    IT Consultant
    Technology Expert labs
    IBM
    Vincent.Greene@ibm.com


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