Originally posted by: jvanboga

Looking at 8.2. So far not very excited about what I'm seeing. At this point, primarily because I'm finding it hard to locate simple configuration tools from previous versions. For example,

-how do I display (stack) multiple input and output cards at the same time?

-I tried creating a temp copy of output card 1 to drag rules around and wasn't able to do so. Has that functionality gone away?

-Somehow I lost the composition view and can't get it back. Any help?
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Originally posted by: LaurentB

Hi,

the composition view is still in the navigator (lower left corner of the Design Studio window), you have the choice between "structure" (the former "list" view) and "composition

• the organization for cards is a bit different, they are no longer stacked as they used to be. You need to go to the Map Preferences to specify how many cards you want to display at the same time. This will also allow you to drag/drop from one to the other.

Hope it helps...
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Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

1. The cards are displayed in a Row in 8.2. By default only 1 input and 1 output cards is displayed. To display more bye default , you can conficure in window->preferences->Transformation Extender-> Map.

you can also see mutliptle cards, just by double clikcing on the cards in the list view.

2. For Composition view, go to window->show view and select composistion. This will display composition view.
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Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

Hi,
I have been using merc 6.7, converted to WTX 8.1, and now we upgraded to 8.2

Learning just the Design Studio without any of the "help" features it is not fun. These are my questions:

1) When you said: you can also see mutliptle cards, just by double clikcing on the cards in the list view

What is the list view? and where to find it?
I know the "outline", the composition, but don't know what the "list view" is.

I used to make the temp card to drag and drop fields from the previous output card to the 2nd card..and so on. Can't do that anymore. I tried to drag field from output card 1 to output card 2 field: like:
string:out2 = field1:out1 + field2:out1
I can drag "field1:out1" to string:out2 field, but when I added "+" sign, I can't drag the 2nd field to that same field.

Would you please advise what I can do in this situation? Is there a manual somewhere to read for the "basic" drag and drop mapping with WTX 8.2.

2) I used to be able to right click on the field to "open type tree". I did this but don't see type tree at all. It must be hidden somewhere, please help me seeing it.

I appreciate all your helps.

Thanks.

Huong
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Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

Huong,
When you find the type trees, please let me know. I'm still looking.

I did get a patch from IBM so that I can double-click on a map or type tree in Windows Explorer and have the Design Studio automatically open. Previously, I received an Eclipse error. The file name is:
WIN-8203-61-PMR57685,122,000-WTX27826-com.ibm.websphere.dtx.ui.te.zip in case anyone chooses to request it from IBM Support.
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Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

Hi Jim,

What was the problem to lead you to get the patch from IBM?

Do you know if IBM has any "read me" document on this upgrade of WTX 8.2? If so, where do they put it, or what do they call it?

Wouldn't it always work when you double click on map or type tree to open?

I don't see any type designer interface anymore. I was in the map, right click on the field to "open type tree", I can't see the type tree opened at all. Do you know where it is hidden?
Are there patches that IBM issues to fix for this 8.2 version?

Thanks.

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Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

Without the patch, I received an Eclipse error when I double clicked on a filename in Windows Explorer using 8.2.0.2 & 8.2.0.3 and Windows Server 2003 SP2. The issue was duplicated by IBM Support.

As I implied above, the right-click on card header and click on "Open type tree" doesn't work for me either. I open type trees by using the menus, File->Open File.

Release Notes are at http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=2320&uid=swg27008337.

The document, "What's New", 1030.pdf, is in C:\docs\en\whats_new.

The readme.txt, readme_doc.txt, readme_mgmttools.txt, & readme_tmgr.txt files are located in C:\IBM\WebSphere Transformation Extender 8.2. Only the TMgr file contains anything other than the most basic install info like "1) Run setup.exe, 2) Follow the instructions in the installation program.)
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Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

Thank You Jim.

I read some of it last nigh.

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Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

> Jim_D wrote:
> Huong,
> When you find the type trees, please let me know. I'm still looking.
>

I found out that in order to use "open type tree" from the map (either from or to card), you have to have "project", in that project, there is Tree folder. You import type tree there, then you can use this "open type tree" option.

Old way, you open individual map, and can open type tree from there. This option does not work.

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Originally posted by: janhess

At 8.2.0.3 (and earlier I think) if you right click on the tree part of a card you can open the type tree.
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Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

Yes, Jan, you can do it but the type tree does not show unless you have it under "project", type tree.
Otherwise, it does not show the type tree.
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Originally posted by: janhess

I think to ensure everything works properly it should be in a project.
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Originally posted by: Eudius

Yes you can right click on a type and select open type tree in Version: 8.2.0.2
Build id: 52
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Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

The version of Design Studio I have is 8.2.0.3, build id: 58.

You can right click on to "open type tree" from map ONLY when you are using the Project and having type tree imported into that project. Then it will open on a separate tab.

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Originally posted by: NancyR

You can set the number of cards to be displayed in preferences as you've been able to do in previous versions although it's in a different place: Window->Preferences->Transformation Extender->Map.

You should be able to copy an output type, select the rule cell on a subsequent output card and paste. Much easier than having to make a temp copy.

Composition is a view. If it disappears, use Window->Show View to get it back.
I've been using this product since Mercator 1.4.2 so weathered the drastic change to both the UI and Design Studio functionality moving to 2.x which I think was a much more drastic change than moving to the Eclipse environment. Even if you don't use WTX with other products in the WebSphere family (where moving WTX to the Eclipse platform is a definite plus), I think, once you get used to this environment, you'll find the pluses outweigh the minuses of having to get used to a new way of working. For example, you can leave the build errors view open as you navigate through all the levels of your functional maps. You no longer need to open the .mme file in an editor to view it as you navigate thru your maps to fix the errors.
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Originally posted by: jvanboga

I appreciate all of the help. Thank you all. It will take time to get used to the new interface.

I don't like that it takes forever to load the interface, took 30 seconds more to load a simple map and so far many things seem convoluted compared to the past. So far I see a lot of warts but the old version had a few too.

So, I'll continue to review the update. The hard thing is that this new version is so different from older versions that there will be a learning curve. Seems like it's a good opportunity to look at what else is available on the market. Then again I may recommend migrating to 8.0 or 8.1 for now.
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Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

The basic learning curve is a couple of days. Not a big deal. It just seems troublesome the first few times you use the new interface. Keep clicking on stuff and right-clicking on more stuff and you'll eventually get to know what you need.
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Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

hi huong,
apologies if I spelt wrongly. if you are in patch2 then you can rightclick+copy and paste on the second card rule (old way of doing). if you are in patch 1. then what ever you doing is the best way to do.
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Originally posted by: SystemAdmin

Hi NageshBAdari,

I am not sure what you meant by "path1", "path2". Are you talking about card1, card2?

Do you understand my question about temporary card. Take the output card1, make a temporary card so you can drag as many fields as you want to output card2 rule...
So you have one field, but you want to concatenate many fields from output card1, this does not work well in WTX 8.2

If you know a better way, please advise.

Thanks.

Huong
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