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Workspace "Load More"

  • 1.  Workspace "Load More"

    Posted 12/08/20 02:16 PM
    Currently running 2.057 WS which is probably as much as is needed to answer this question. 

    When expanding objects from the content tree within Workspace (cubes, dims, ti's) there is a relatively new "Load More" selection to continue to load the list of objects.  We have a large number of objects in some cases which results in many button clicks to expand the entire section.  This is infuriating!  Is there a setting to expand to all by default?  Am happy to wait while WS renders the objects (as it did previously).

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    James McCarthy
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  • 2.  RE: Workspace "Load More"

    Posted 12/08/20 02:49 PM

    Hi James,

    You will be stuck with this while running 2.0.57 but as Julian replied in George's Post on here there will be a setting as you have described coming in the next release (60.)
    I think you are not the only one to have felt this pain by the sounds of it.

    Thanks,

    Declan



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    Declan Rodger
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  • 3.  RE: Workspace "Load More"

    Posted 12/08/20 10:56 PM
    Since they're on it, I believe having the ability to search the database tree would be the most ideal solution here.

    That way it will restrict us from scrolling up and down as well to search any object.

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    Amin Mohammed
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  • 4.  RE: Workspace "Load More"

    Posted 12/09/20 12:18 AM
    Edited by System Admin 01/20/23 04:10 PM
    There are a few enhancement requests logged around filtering and searching - here's two that are relevant:
    PAW 2.0.57 Interface - Allow search of database object or show all
    Filtering navigational tree in PAW

    Cast your vote.

    Whether it is a filter as you type or filter that you apply to all objects/assets, it is a long time coming - at least the last 10 years on perspectives.

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    George Tonkin
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  • 5.  RE: Workspace "Load More"

    Posted 12/09/20 08:25 AM
    Hi Amin - Yes, the Planning Analytics team plans to add a search/filter to the model tree at some point in 2021.  The current thinking is that it would show up under each object type in the TM1 model you are working in.  I agree that this would be most useful.

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    Stuart King
    IBM Planning Analytics Offering Manager
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  • 6.  RE: Workspace "Load More"

    Posted 12/09/20 12:38 PM
    Having search under each object type is not a good solution. Many times you want to find all objects that have certain strings in their name regardless of type. I would encourage the designers to refer to the implementation of search in ARC.



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  • 7.  RE: Workspace "Load More"

    Posted 12/09/20 10:10 AM
    I have also expressed my frustration with this and have also been told a fix is coming. I agree with being able to search the tree, however both a load more number and search are necessary as with a large number of objects I may not know what the object name is.

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    Robby Meyers
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  • 8.  RE: Workspace "Load More"

    Posted 12/10/20 08:45 AM
    We are investigating options to return to the behavior in the classic UI that did not include 'load more' feature.  This would be in place of being able to configure the 'load more' size.  

    @Ryan Clapp Can you provide details about the use case where you are searching for an object based on it's name where the objects returned could have multiple types (e.g dimensions, cubes, processes)? ​​​ Is this just to access a logical grouping of objects, such as finding a cube and a TI processes that loads data into that cube?

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    Stuart King
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  • 9.  RE: Workspace "Load More"

    Posted 12/10/20 09:00 AM
    Edited by System Admin 01/20/23 04:28 PM
    HI Stuart,

    Sorry for jumping in but wanted to add my use case per your question to Ryan.

    The system I am currently developing has as an example a General Ledger cube.
    This in turn has dimensions for General Ledger Source, General Ledger Accounts and General Ledger Measures.
    Some dimensions may have Attributes as well as Picklist cubes associated with them.
    There are numerous processes dealing with metadata and data e.g. MD-General Ledger Account-Import Master Data, D-General Ledger-Carry Forward Actuals etc. etc.
    Some processes may have chores linked to them e.g. General Ledger-Daily Process.

    Similarly, I have a Sales Planning, Sales Pricing, Expense, Income Statement and a few others each with similar related objects.

    For my requirements, I would like the search to filter across Applications, Cubes, Dimensions, Process, Chores and Control Objects and show only those that match the filter being typed e.g. General Ledger.  The search should traverse the objects e.g Applications, Cubes views etc. and apply the filtering consistently

    Hope this makes sense.

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    George Tonkin
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  • 10.  RE: Workspace "Load More"

    Posted 12/10/20 09:59 AM
    George - Yes, this makes sense to me.  This also reminds me of the folders feature in Performance Modeler that allows different TM1 objects types to be grouped in the same folder.  


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    Stuart King
    IBM Planning Analytics Offering Manager
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  • 11.  RE: Workspace "Load More"

    Posted 12/10/20 11:48 AM

    Yes, that is 80% of the use case. While logical grouping by folder would be helpful I would not be keen to sign developers up for more work just so the search function works. Search across all objects on a server, regardless of if they are grouped, together is necessary. The best practices of today (since TM1 has no native support for "modularization") is to use a common name convention. For example, everything that has to do with Revenue Planning may have "Rev Plan" somewhere in the name.

     




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  • 12.  RE: Workspace "Load More"

    Posted 12/10/20 12:07 PM
    Possibly checkboxes that allow an end user to select what objects they want to search?  that way if you return too many objects when searching all objects you could limit to specific types of objects.


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    Robby Meyers
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