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The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

  • 1.  The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Wed February 12, 2025 11:34 PM

    Elon Musk has long been an advocate for decentralization, disruption, and efficiency-driven technologies. The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) is exploring potential shifts away from mainframe-centric infrastructure used by the U.S. Treasury toward privatized and distributed computing environments. If such a transition materializes, it could significantly impact mainframe professionals and federal IT operations.

    Technical Risks of Deplatforming from Mainframe-Based Treasury Systems

    1. Security & Data Integrity Concerns

    Mainframe systems, particularly IBM Z-series architectures, provide robust security, workload isolation, and compliance with stringent financial regulations. Transitioning core Treasury functions to alternative computing platforms introduces risks:

    • Increased Attack Surface: Distributed architectures often rely on APIs and microservices, which expand potential attack vectors compared to monolithic mainframe environments.

    • Regulatory Challenges: The U.S. Treasury must comply with Federal Information Security Management Act (FISMA) and Payment Card Industry Data Security Standard (PCI DSS) requirements. Shifting to alternative infrastructures may necessitate complex compliance adaptations.

    • Data Consistency Issues: Mainframes utilize hierarchical and relational databases optimized for transactional integrity. Decentralized or cloud-based architectures introduce synchronization challenges that can impact financial reconciliations.

    2. Performance & Reliability Considerations

    Mainframes are engineered for high-volume transaction processing, ensuring uptime and operational efficiency. Moving away from this infrastructure raises concerns regarding:

    • Throughput Limitations: Many modern distributed architectures struggle to match mainframe I/O processing speeds, especially for batch processing workloads.

    • Scalability Trade-offs: While cloud-native architectures provide elastic scalability, they lack the deterministic performance characteristics of mainframes.

    • Downtime Risks: Mainframes operate with 99.999% uptime, whereas cloud or hybrid deployments introduce additional failure points due to dependency on multiple service providers.

    3. Impact on Fiscal Policy & Financial Control

    Mainframes underpin the Treasury's ability to execute fiscal policy, ensuring stability in payment processing and economic oversight. Deplatforming introduces:

    • Reduced Centralized Control: Distributed infrastructures may limit direct control over monetary flows, affecting the Treasury's ability to manage financial policy.

    • Operational Risks in Payment Systems: Existing mainframe-based Federal Reserve payment networks (FedACH and Fedwire) rely on secure, high-speed processing. Transitioning these to alternative environments may introduce latency and processing delays.

    Cost Considerations of Migrating Away from Mainframes

    • Infrastructure Overhaul: Treasury workloads require high-throughput, low-latency processing, which current mainframe systems efficiently provide. Rebuilding similar capabilities in alternative environments is cost-prohibitive.

    • Data Migration Complexity: Mainframes manage extensive historical financial records. Transitioning datasets while maintaining data integrity and compliance is a major logistical challenge.

    • Personnel & Training Costs: A shift from mainframes necessitates retraining IT staff, increasing costs related to workforce adaptation.

    How Mainframe Professionals Can Adapt to Potential Career Disruptions

    While mainframes remain critical to federal operations, IT professionals should prepare for evolving technologies. Key areas for adaptation include:

    1. Developing Hybrid IT Expertise

    • Cloud-Mainframe Integration: Mastering hybrid architectures that incorporate both mainframe and cloud services can ensure continued relevance.

    • Secure API Development: Learning how to bridge mainframe applications with modern DevOps and API-based ecosystems enhances flexibility.

    • Advanced Security Knowledge: Expanding expertise in federal compliance and encryption standards will be essential as security models evolve.

    2. Understanding Government IT Modernization Strategies

    Familiarizing with initiatives such as the Federal IT Modernization Strategy and Zero Trust Architecture (ZTA) can provide insight into how agencies plan to transition legacy workloads.

    3. Promoting Mainframe Optimization Instead of Full Migration

    Rather than advocating for full-scale deplatforming, IT professionals can emphasize:

    • Containerized Workloads on Mainframes: Leveraging containerization to modernize mainframe applications without migrating to external environments.

    • Integration of AI/ML for Operational Efficiency: Utilizing AI for predictive analytics and workload optimization within mainframe environments.

    Conclusion

    The potential deplatforming of U.S. Treasury transactions from mainframes to DOGE-driven infrastructures presents significant risks in terms of security, performance, and regulatory compliance. While mainframes remain a critical backbone for federal financial operations, professionals must stay proactive by acquiring hybrid IT skills, advocating for modernization strategies, and ensuring secure integration between traditional and emerging technologies.



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    Hasnain Attarwala
    R & D Engineer
    BMC
    CO
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  • 2.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Sun February 16, 2025 08:41 AM

    This is a good overview, I am seeing many articles regarding recent events, all I can hope is that things settle down soon and there is no rush to fix what isn't broke. The article that made me smack my head is the one where new "operatives" thought they had discovered 150 yr old people all still claiming benefits :-) 



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    Andrew Brisland
    Mainframe Support Analyst
    LITIT
    Liverpool
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  • 3.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Sun February 16, 2025 10:38 AM
    The abuse will always be there, we aren't fixing or even addressing any moral issues. This is solely about the mainframe platform. Cheers! 






  • 4.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Tue February 18, 2025 09:29 AM

    Andrew,

    My guess is that in most cases this might be an issue of bad legacy data rather than malfeasance. I've worked at many US federal government agencies throughout my career. These were some of the first organizations to computerize in the 1960s. Data was originally stored in ISAM/VSAM files or IMS. None of these enforce strong data typing and validation checks were hand-coded in Cobol or Assembler (if at all).

    For the mainframe modernization efforts on which I am currently working with a variety of clients a common question is "What do we do with data that is demonstrably wrong?" Substitute a common value? Make it NULL? Other? Each of these comes with risks. So in many cases the obviously bad data is just retained.

    Frank 



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    Frank Fillmore
    Founder and Principal
    The Fillmore Group
    Baltimore MD
    410-465-6335
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  • 5.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Mon February 17, 2025 10:49 AM

    Good article, Hasnain. Thank you!



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    Erik Weyler
    Solution Architect
    SEB
    Stockholm
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  • 6.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Tue February 18, 2025 03:12 AM

    Very interesting thank you !



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    François DELTOMBE System engineer
    System engineer
    CA-GIP
    Gradignan
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  • 7.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Tue February 18, 2025 09:57 AM
    Edited by Ian Wright Tue February 18, 2025 10:34 AM

    I'm not sure how to respond to this because we're generally supposed to avoid political topics here and Musk has wedged himself into our political system.

    Your conclusions are based on an assumption that this is in any way based on efficiency, or even logic. The fact of the matter is that Federal employees of all stripes have been getting emails encouraging them to quit since this started, without regard to performance ratings or how necessary their skills are. And that's before entire organizations and probationary employees were straight out fired without regard to performance ratings or how necessary their skills are.

    Moreover, Musk has repeatedly shown that he lacks an understanding or curiosity about IT. I can't be the only one who remembers when he bought Twitter and declared that he was going to shut down the microservices... and then broke MFA because anyone who understands the basic concept of microservices architecture knows that you can't just randomly pull out services based on RPC calls. More recently he not only broadcast a lack of understanding of COBOL but the concept of deduplication.

    So, I would say that it's impossible to say what will keep Civil Servant mainframers jobs safe at this time. For any champions who are civil servants... as the husband of a non-IT civil servant, I know that it's a rough time right now. I don't know what to tell you beyond that you are important and your skills with the mainframe (or any other part of IT) are valuable. I hope that you're taking care of yourselves and I sympathize with you.



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    Ian Wright IBM Champion for Storage, Red Hat Accelerator
    System Engineer
    Mainline Information Systems
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  • 8.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Fri March 21, 2025 06:18 AM

    I'm glad someone said this!  Ian you are totally right  👏

    There is no logic within any of Musk's decisions.

    I knew that this issue was serious when he claimed that Aviation workers (an industry with some of the strictest rules and regulations) was run by 'DEI hires' with absolutely zero evidence.

    Ultimately Musk is a buffoon who is dismantling loads of important efforts, under the guise of "saving money".

    This is a man was removed from PayPal, who ruined Twitter, who made false accusations about people trying to rescue children, and who is the sole reason for the Tesla boycotts.

    Furthermore I don't think anyone should be surprised that a billionaire is pretending to help the general public but is finding a way to exploit the system.



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    Niall Ashley (he/him)
    Consultant in Mainframe Security (RACF)
    Vertali Ltd
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  • 9.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Fri March 14, 2025 09:23 AM

    I work for a state-level government, and it is safe to say we all are watching this closely as well.  I don't know how this will all break out at the end, but likely there will be some limiters based on security and best practices that will constrain them as they try to "deplatform" or move away from Mainframe.  There is a reason that so many large organizations and institutions stick with Mainframes to this day.



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    Dan Major
    Sr. Enterprise Systems Analyst
    State Of Oregon - Office Of Information Services
    Salem OR
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  • 10.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Wed March 19, 2025 09:32 AM

    Good article



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  • 11.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Wed March 19, 2025 01:41 PM

    Thank you!



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    Hasnain Attarwala
    Mainframe Engineer
    CO
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  • 12.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Wed March 19, 2025 03:06 PM

    Thank you for so much insight in this! Pls keep your heads up ! Greetings from a foreign country. I worked 7 years for a MAS based computer company. So I try to monitor what's going on cause many citizens over here have the fear that similar things might happen over here as well.



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    [Karl] [Jaeger] [#ibmchampion]
    [QRadar Specialist]
    [cnag]
    [Siegen] [Germany]
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  • 13.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Thu March 20, 2025 09:39 AM
    Edited by Lorraine Rizzuto Mon March 24, 2025 09:15 AM

    Article posted  3/17/2025

                                                       Is it "The Mainframe or The Personal"  within the government?

    “If you’re a government entity, you should play it safe. You should be low risk,” he says. “Maybe government will start to think more that way as a result of fear [of DOGE]. But in general, I don’t think government entities need or should or would want to swing for the fences and go for the most modern bleeding edge technology if they’re five years behind.”

    https://www.itjungle.com/2025/03/17/government-mainframes-versus-doge-showdown-at-the-cobol-corral/



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    Thomas Mertens
    Medford, Wi U.S.A (Summer)
    Florida (Winter) U.S.A.
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  • 14.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Thu March 20, 2025 08:25 AM

    Nice article Hasnain, my hope is that someone at IBM is educating DOGE on these very facts, because my guess is that most of his team only knows the mainframe from on NCIS where McGee keeps saying "we hacked their mainframe".



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    Gregory DeBo
    Principal Consultant
    Team SWAMI
    Normal IL
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  • 15.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Fri March 21, 2025 06:24 AM


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    Niall Ashley (he/him)
    Consultant in Mainframe Security (RACF)
    Vertali Ltd
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  • 16.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Mon March 24, 2025 09:17 AM

    Elon Musk and DOGE always spark big discussions! Just like with unlimited features, unexpected shifts in tech and finance can change everything. It'll be interesting to see how this unfolds and impacts the industry



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    Aroob Rehman
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  • 17.  RE: The Elon Musk & DOGE Deplatforming Challenge: Mainframe Risks & Career Implications

    Posted Mon March 24, 2025 09:36 AM

    The thing is that it's not exactly a "big" academic discussion for those of us who have to deal with it. It is our lives and the lives of people that we care about.



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    Ian Wright IBM Champion for Storage, Red Hat Accelerator
    System Engineer
    Mainline Information Systems
    IBM Champion for Storage
    Red Hat Accelerator
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