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  • 1.  Starting IS from profiles folder vs Default folder

    Posted Wed May 07, 2025 11:24 AM

    Hi Team,

    What is the difference between starting IS from.

    1. profiles/IS_default/bin/startup.sh/bat

    and

    2. IntegrationServer/default/bin/starup.sh/bat

    3. When to start IS from profiles/IS_default/bin ?

    4. When to start IS from IntegrationServer/deafult/bin directory?

    Thanks,

    Kiran



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    kiran kumar
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  • 2.  RE: Starting IS from profiles folder vs Default folder

    Posted Thu May 08, 2025 01:20 AM

    Kiran,

    I don't know if there is a difference between starting IS from either location, but the IS_Default location will not be created starting with Version 11.

    Regards,

    Wayne 



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    Wayne Campos
    Solution Architect
    IBM
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  • 3.  RE: Starting IS from profiles folder vs Default folder

    Posted Thu May 08, 2025 02:46 AM

    Hi Kiran,

    as I am aware with this, IntegrationServer/default/bin is useful for standalone scenario because it don't initialize platform manager.
    while profiles/IS_Default/bin initializes platofrm manager.

    I hope we can get more on it from others.



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    Zainul Abideen
    webMethods Developer (Assistant Consultant)
    Innovation Team
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  • 4.  RE: Starting IS from profiles folder vs Default folder

    Posted Thu May 08, 2025 11:32 AM

    Hi Kiran, many thanks for your question.  Many people do not know the difference.  So no worries for asking.

    First of all your question indicate that you are using a full fletch "IS - Integration Server" not only the "MSR - MicroServiceRuntime". In the later case you have no such "instance" folders because only one IS per home is started. So in this case you start it directly from the main folder.  (./IntegrationServer/default/bin )

    For IS the concept allows to run "instance", multiple on one server. Those are separated also in "profiles". The main folder is kind of the master and will be cloned into a new instance when you create that.
    Is means that when you know you will also need libraries like for JDBC or SAP connectors, you can add them to the main folder and when create  new instance they will be also applied to the same. 
    However you never start IS from that folder directly because your "config files", logfiles etc. pp. need to be specific per "instance". 😁

    Now you might ask why those PROFILES at all, in the legacy world you could also start the IS directly with "server.sh".  Absolutely yes, and you still can, but there is a ready why the "profile" was invented around it. It uses the "Tanuki wrapper" and context information to customize your IS (e.g. most people know about memory settings, JMX, class path etc.). But Tanuki does much more. It also provide a watchdog function, so that hanging IS instances are deal with automatically. It also collects all the output that (for whatever reason) not make it to the usual logs but STDOUT / ERROUT and write it into the "wrapper.log" so you have easy way  to access and analyze the same.  Last but not least Tanuki has the build in features for Windows / Linux to make processes auto-start on reboot as system services. 

    If you like to know more on TANUKI please see: 
    https://docs.webmethods.io/on-premises/webmethods-integration-server/en/11.1.0/webhelp/index.html#page/pie-webhelp/to-start_stop_server_26.html
    or
    https://wrapper.tanukisoftware.com/doc/english/integrate.html

    To know more about IS Instances, please see:
    https://docs.webmethods.io/on-premises/webmethods-integration-server/en/11.1.0/webhelp/index.html#page/pie-webhelp%2Fto-multi_IS_instances_8.html

    Best regards,

    Holm.



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    Holm Steinland
    webmethods - New Product Introduction
    IBM
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  • 5.  RE: Starting IS from profiles folder vs Default folder

    Posted Fri May 09, 2025 07:56 AM

    Hi Kiran,

    I would add to Holm's answer that behind the hood, IntegrationServer/instances/<instance>/bin/{startup,shutdown}.(sh|bat)scripts call theprofiles/IS_<instances>/bin/{startup,shutdown}.(sh|bat) scripts, so choosing either way shouldn't matter.

    And as said by Wayne, if you install a 11.1, you won't have to worry anymore as only the IntegrationServer/instances/<instance>/bin/{startup,shutdown}.(sh|bat) will be present.

    However, contrary to what Zainul said, starting the IS using profiles/IS_<instance>/bin/startup.sh does not initialize the Platform Manager. Although based on the same components (OSGi framework and Tanuki wrapper), hence the confusion, they are two different components.



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    Mathieu Aguesse
    webMethods Delivery Consultant
    IBM France
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