Dear Community

I am running SPSS Statistics v 27 in a high-performance linux box (Debian 12 LTS). There are about 60 users connecting to this server.  They connect remotely and access SPSS from the graphical desktop environment.  As soon as they open SPSS,  the desktop menu on top disappears, SPSS windows and panes can only be minimized or maximised,  even if the linux system menu is seen they can't logout as clicking on 'logout' is unresponsive. 

I tested and reproduced this issue at the server terminal itself to rule out other causes. I never install fixpacks as I dont have direct support contract with IBM as we deal only with Version1 for licensing.  I also made sure there aren't multiple spss processes running in the background. 

When the users do not access SPSS , things are ok, no problem at all. So it appears SPSS is causing the system to freeze. Is this a stable version? Should I upgrade to version 30? Or Is there a fixpack / workaround?  Your advise will be hugely helpful.

Thank you

Siva P

Hi @Siva Padmanabhan
Debian was never a supported linux distribution for this version of SPSS Statistics.  From your description, it sounds like you are having trouble with the GNOME user interface rendering the Statistics interface.

Also, your particular deployment with the client deployed to a server and then multiple end user sessions launching that same set of binaries was never fully and formally tested.  Again from your description it seems like your user sessions are fully invoking the complete Statistics graphical user interface and backend.  Ultimately, this likely will consume all available resources.  Have your tried virtualizing your Statistics 27.0.1.0 (linux) clients and licensing them via the IBM SPSS Concurrent license manager and Tools?  Rather than having multiple users competing for literally the same client, send each user to their own VM.

I would have liked to have seen  all of these questions researched  and expanded upon.  But as you know, IBM suspended development of SPSS Statistics on Linux.  Version 27.0.1.0 was the last release.  You might try deploying to one of the supported linux distributions contemporary with when IBM SPSS Statistics 27.0.1.0 was released. 

See the IBM Software Product Compatibility Report for IBM SPSS Statistics 27.0.1.0 for the supported platforms for this version.

Dear Community

I am running SPSS Statistics v 27 in a high-performance linux box (Debian 12 LTS). There are about 60 users connecting to this server.  They connect remotely and access SPSS from the graphical desktop environment.  As soon as they open SPSS,  the desktop menu on top disappears, SPSS windows and panes can only be minimized or maximised,  even if the linux system menu is seen they can't logout as clicking on 'logout' is unresponsive. 

I tested and reproduced this issue at the server terminal itself to rule out other causes. I never install fixpacks as I dont have direct support contract with IBM as we deal only with Version1 for licensing.  I also made sure there aren't multiple spss processes running in the background. 

When the users do not access SPSS , things are ok, no problem at all. So it appears SPSS is causing the system to freeze. Is this a stable version? Should I upgrade to version 30? Or Is there a fixpack / workaround?  Your advise will be hugely helpful.

Thank you

Siva P

Hi @Siva Padmanabhan
Debian was never a supported linux distribution for this version of SPSS Statistics.  From your description, it sounds like you are having trouble with the GNOME user interface rendering the Statistics interface.

Also, your particular deployment with the client deployed to a server and then multiple end user sessions launching that same set of binaries was never fully and formally tested.  Again from your description it seems like your user sessions are fully invoking the complete Statistics graphical user interface and backend.  Ultimately, this likely will consume all available resources.  Have your tried virtualizing your Statistics 27.0.1.0 (linux) clients and licensing them via the IBM SPSS Concurrent license manager and Tools?  Rather than having multiple users competing for literally the same client, send each user to their own VM.

I would have liked to have seen  all of these questions researched  and expanded upon.  But as you know, IBM suspended development of SPSS Statistics on Linux.  Version 27.0.1.0 was the last release.  You might try deploying to one of the supported linux distributions contemporary with when IBM SPSS Statistics 27.0.1.0 was released. 

See the IBM Software Product Compatibility Report for IBM SPSS Statistics 27.0.1.0 for the supported platforms for this version.

Dear Community

I am running SPSS Statistics v 27 in a high-performance linux box (Debian 12 LTS). There are about 60 users connecting to this server.  They connect remotely and access SPSS from the graphical desktop environment.  As soon as they open SPSS,  the desktop menu on top disappears, SPSS windows and panes can only be minimized or maximised,  even if the linux system menu is seen they can't logout as clicking on 'logout' is unresponsive. 

I tested and reproduced this issue at the server terminal itself to rule out other causes. I never install fixpacks as I dont have direct support contract with IBM as we deal only with Version1 for licensing.  I also made sure there aren't multiple spss processes running in the background. 

When the users do not access SPSS , things are ok, no problem at all. So it appears SPSS is causing the system to freeze. Is this a stable version? Should I upgrade to version 30? Or Is there a fixpack / workaround?  Your advise will be hugely helpful.

Thank you

Siva P

Hi @David Dwyer Thank you for responding to my query. This is now going to change my approach in redesigning my computing platform when you say SPSS stat is no longer available for Linux. However When I navigate to version 30 in the Product Compatibility report, I see Linux is listed. May be this is a documentation error and SPSS installation packs are actually no longer available for Linux platforms? Please advice. 

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Siva Padmanabhan

Original Message:
Sent: Tue February 25, 2025 02:49 PM
From: David Dwyer
Subject: SPSS statistics 27.0.1.0 in Linux (Debian 12 LTS) = performance issues

Hi @Siva Padmanabhan
Debian was never a supported linux distribution for this version of SPSS Statistics.  From your description, it sounds like you are having trouble with the GNOME user interface rendering the Statistics interface.

Also, your particular deployment with the client deployed to a server and then multiple end user sessions launching that same set of binaries was never fully and formally tested.  Again from your description it seems like your user sessions are fully invoking the complete Statistics graphical user interface and backend.  Ultimately, this likely will consume all available resources.  Have your tried virtualizing your Statistics 27.0.1.0 (linux) clients and licensing them via the IBM SPSS Concurrent license manager and Tools?  Rather than having multiple users competing for literally the same client, send each user to their own VM.

I would have liked to have seen  all of these questions researched  and expanded upon.  But as you know, IBM suspended development of SPSS Statistics on Linux.  Version 27.0.1.0 was the last release.  You might try deploying to one of the supported linux distributions contemporary with when IBM SPSS Statistics 27.0.1.0 was released. 

See the IBM Software Product Compatibility Report for IBM SPSS Statistics 27.0.1.0 for the supported platforms for this version.

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David Dwyer
Global Solution Consultant
IBM

Original Message:
Sent: Mon February 17, 2025 07:33 AM
From: Siva Padmanabhan
Subject: SPSS statistics 27.0.1.0 in Linux (Debian 12 LTS) = performance issues

Dear Community

I am running SPSS Statistics v 27 in a high-performance linux box (Debian 12 LTS). There are about 60 users connecting to this server.  They connect remotely and access SPSS from the graphical desktop environment.  As soon as they open SPSS,  the desktop menu on top disappears, SPSS windows and panes can only be minimized or maximised,  even if the linux system menu is seen they can't logout as clicking on 'logout' is unresponsive. 

I tested and reproduced this issue at the server terminal itself to rule out other causes. I never install fixpacks as I dont have direct support contract with IBM as we deal only with Version1 for licensing.  I also made sure there aren't multiple spss processes running in the background. 

When the users do not access SPSS , things are ok, no problem at all. So it appears SPSS is causing the system to freeze. Is this a stable version? Should I upgrade to version 30? Or Is there a fixpack / workaround?  Your advise will be hugely helpful.

Thank you

Siva P

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Siva Padmanabhan
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To be clear, IBM SPSS Statistics Server is supported on Linux.  IBM SPSS Statistics client for Linux ended with version 27.0.1.0. 

I'm sorry for the confusion.

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David Dwyer
Global Solution Consultant
IBM

Original Message:
Sent: Thu February 27, 2025 11:53 AM
From: Siva Padmanabhan
Subject: SPSS statistics 27.0.1.0 in Linux (Debian 12 LTS) = performance issues

Hi @David Dwyer Thank you for responding to my query. This is now going to change my approach in redesigning my computing platform when you say SPSS stat is no longer available for Linux. However When I navigate to version 30 in the Product Compatibility report, I see Linux is listed. May be this is a documentation error and SPSS installation packs are actually no longer available for Linux platforms? Please advice. 

------------------------------
Siva Padmanabhan

Original Message:
Sent: Tue February 25, 2025 02:49 PM
From: David Dwyer
Subject: SPSS statistics 27.0.1.0 in Linux (Debian 12 LTS) = performance issues

Hi @Siva Padmanabhan
Debian was never a supported linux distribution for this version of SPSS Statistics.  From your description, it sounds like you are having trouble with the GNOME user interface rendering the Statistics interface.

Also, your particular deployment with the client deployed to a server and then multiple end user sessions launching that same set of binaries was never fully and formally tested.  Again from your description it seems like your user sessions are fully invoking the complete Statistics graphical user interface and backend.  Ultimately, this likely will consume all available resources.  Have your tried virtualizing your Statistics 27.0.1.0 (linux) clients and licensing them via the IBM SPSS Concurrent license manager and Tools?  Rather than having multiple users competing for literally the same client, send each user to their own VM.

I would have liked to have seen  all of these questions researched  and expanded upon.  But as you know, IBM suspended development of SPSS Statistics on Linux.  Version 27.0.1.0 was the last release.  You might try deploying to one of the supported linux distributions contemporary with when IBM SPSS Statistics 27.0.1.0 was released. 

See the IBM Software Product Compatibility Report for IBM SPSS Statistics 27.0.1.0 for the supported platforms for this version.

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David Dwyer
Global Solution Consultant
IBM

Original Message:
Sent: Mon February 17, 2025 07:33 AM
From: Siva Padmanabhan
Subject: SPSS statistics 27.0.1.0 in Linux (Debian 12 LTS) = performance issues

Dear Community

I am running SPSS Statistics v 27 in a high-performance linux box (Debian 12 LTS). There are about 60 users connecting to this server.  They connect remotely and access SPSS from the graphical desktop environment.  As soon as they open SPSS,  the desktop menu on top disappears, SPSS windows and panes can only be minimized or maximised,  even if the linux system menu is seen they can't logout as clicking on 'logout' is unresponsive. 

I tested and reproduced this issue at the server terminal itself to rule out other causes. I never install fixpacks as I dont have direct support contract with IBM as we deal only with Version1 for licensing.  I also made sure there aren't multiple spss processes running in the background. 

When the users do not access SPSS , things are ok, no problem at all. So it appears SPSS is causing the system to freeze. Is this a stable version? Should I upgrade to version 30? Or Is there a fixpack / workaround?  Your advise will be hugely helpful.

Thank you

Siva P

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Siva Padmanabhan
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Thank you. I tried to gather more info about SPSS stats server however there isn't much in the public domain.  I think it is not web based.  Does the server have a user interface/GUI where users can login and do their analysis? Please can you direct me to any link where I can read more about the SPSS stats server. All I can see is the server installation and admin guide..I am trying to determine the use case for the server component

Thanks

To be clear, IBM SPSS Statistics Server is supported on Linux.  IBM SPSS Statistics client for Linux ended with version 27.0.1.0. 

I'm sorry for the confusion.

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David Dwyer
Global Solution Consultant
IBM

Original Message:
Sent: Thu February 27, 2025 11:53 AM
From: Siva Padmanabhan
Subject: SPSS statistics 27.0.1.0 in Linux (Debian 12 LTS) = performance issues

Hi @David Dwyer Thank you for responding to my query. This is now going to change my approach in redesigning my computing platform when you say SPSS stat is no longer available for Linux. However When I navigate to version 30 in the Product Compatibility report, I see Linux is listed. May be this is a documentation error and SPSS installation packs are actually no longer available for Linux platforms? Please advice. 

------------------------------
Siva Padmanabhan

Original Message:
Sent: Tue February 25, 2025 02:49 PM
From: David Dwyer
Subject: SPSS statistics 27.0.1.0 in Linux (Debian 12 LTS) = performance issues

Hi @Siva Padmanabhan
Debian was never a supported linux distribution for this version of SPSS Statistics.  From your description, it sounds like you are having trouble with the GNOME user interface rendering the Statistics interface.

Also, your particular deployment with the client deployed to a server and then multiple end user sessions launching that same set of binaries was never fully and formally tested.  Again from your description it seems like your user sessions are fully invoking the complete Statistics graphical user interface and backend.  Ultimately, this likely will consume all available resources.  Have your tried virtualizing your Statistics 27.0.1.0 (linux) clients and licensing them via the IBM SPSS Concurrent license manager and Tools?  Rather than having multiple users competing for literally the same client, send each user to their own VM.

I would have liked to have seen  all of these questions researched  and expanded upon.  But as you know, IBM suspended development of SPSS Statistics on Linux.  Version 27.0.1.0 was the last release.  You might try deploying to one of the supported linux distributions contemporary with when IBM SPSS Statistics 27.0.1.0 was released. 

See the IBM Software Product Compatibility Report for IBM SPSS Statistics 27.0.1.0 for the supported platforms for this version.

------------------------------
David Dwyer
Global Solution Consultant
IBM

Original Message:
Sent: Mon February 17, 2025 07:33 AM
From: Siva Padmanabhan
Subject: SPSS statistics 27.0.1.0 in Linux (Debian 12 LTS) = performance issues

Dear Community

I am running SPSS Statistics v 27 in a high-performance linux box (Debian 12 LTS). There are about 60 users connecting to this server.  They connect remotely and access SPSS from the graphical desktop environment.  As soon as they open SPSS,  the desktop menu on top disappears, SPSS windows and panes can only be minimized or maximised,  even if the linux system menu is seen they can't logout as clicking on 'logout' is unresponsive. 

I tested and reproduced this issue at the server terminal itself to rule out other causes. I never install fixpacks as I dont have direct support contract with IBM as we deal only with Version1 for licensing.  I also made sure there aren't multiple spss processes running in the background. 

When the users do not access SPSS , things are ok, no problem at all. So it appears SPSS is causing the system to freeze. Is this a stable version? Should I upgrade to version 30? Or Is there a fixpack / workaround?  Your advise will be hugely helpful.

Thank you

Siva P

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Siva Padmanabhan
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