You can't retrieve them from the box, or put them back into it for a restore?

You might want to check the default XML Manager.  It may not be allowing the XMI to export a document that large.

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

------------------------------
Andreas Brand
------------------------------

I can create the backup, I just can't retrieve the files from Temporary.   I may try saving them in Local and see if I can pull from there

------------------------------
John Parker
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 05:50 AM
From: Andreas Brand
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

------------------------------
Andreas Brand

I use Java rather than Python, but I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the language.   I have no problems exporting anything from temporary.

Have you turned on internal logging and examined the log to see if there is any error or indication related to the export attempt?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 08:01 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I can create the backup, I just can't retrieve the files from Temporary.   I may try saving them in Local and see if I can pull from there

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 05:50 AM
From: Andreas Brand
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

------------------------------
Andreas Brand

Yes, but nothing seems to be hitting the logs.

What permissions do you give the credentials that connect to the Datapower?  I'm wondering if that is an issue.  I am also trying to do a full export, which I can create and download on some of my Datapowers, but not all of them, which is kind of weird

I use Java rather than Python, but I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the language.   I have no problems exporting anything from temporary.

Have you turned on internal logging and examined the log to see if there is any error or indication related to the export attempt?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 08:01 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I can create the backup, I just can't retrieve the files from Temporary.   I may try saving them in Local and see if I can pull from there

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 05:50 AM
From: Andreas Brand
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

------------------------------
Andreas Brand

I am using a privileged account, but not the "admin" account.  So you may be onto something.  What is the permission string for your user?

Yes, but nothing seems to be hitting the logs.

What permissions do you give the credentials that connect to the Datapower?  I'm wondering if that is an issue.  I am also trying to do a full export, which I can create and download on some of my Datapowers, but not all of them, which is kind of weird

I use Java rather than Python, but I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the language.   I have no problems exporting anything from temporary.

Have you turned on internal logging and examined the log to see if there is any error or indication related to the export attempt?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 08:01 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I can create the backup, I just can't retrieve the files from Temporary.   I may try saving them in Local and see if I can pull from there

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 05:50 AM
From: Andreas Brand
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

------------------------------
Andreas Brand

Ok, I also have a privileged account just for backups, but not the admin account.   Is there any other permissions that you give to it?  What version of firmware are you running?

I am using a privileged account, but not the "admin" account.  So you may be onto something.  What is the permission string for your user?

Yes, but nothing seems to be hitting the logs.

What permissions do you give the credentials that connect to the Datapower?  I'm wondering if that is an issue.  I am also trying to do a full export, which I can create and download on some of my Datapowers, but not all of them, which is kind of weird

I use Java rather than Python, but I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the language.   I have no problems exporting anything from temporary.

Have you turned on internal logging and examined the log to see if there is any error or indication related to the export attempt?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 08:01 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I can create the backup, I just can't retrieve the files from Temporary.   I may try saving them in Local and see if I can pull from there

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 05:50 AM
From: Andreas Brand
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

------------------------------
Andreas Brand

I'm doing it with KumbaSoft's DPAA, which uses the XMI with the account credentials.  I don't do anything additional than the account is privileged.  It works with FW from 10.5.x through 11.  FWIW, the V11 is docker only.

Ok, I also have a privileged account just for backups, but not the admin account.   Is there any other permissions that you give to it?  What version of firmware are you running?

I am using a privileged account, but not the "admin" account.  So you may be onto something.  What is the permission string for your user?

Yes, but nothing seems to be hitting the logs.

What permissions do you give the credentials that connect to the Datapower?  I'm wondering if that is an issue.  I am also trying to do a full export, which I can create and download on some of my Datapowers, but not all of them, which is kind of weird

I use Java rather than Python, but I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the language.   I have no problems exporting anything from temporary.

Have you turned on internal logging and examined the log to see if there is any error or indication related to the export attempt?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 08:01 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I can create the backup, I just can't retrieve the files from Temporary.   I may try saving them in Local and see if I can pull from there

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 05:50 AM
From: Andreas Brand
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

------------------------------
Andreas Brand

I used to be able to do this in WAMC, but the server does use the latest TLS, and non of the browsers will connect.

I'm doing it with KumbaSoft's DPAA, which uses the XMI with the account credentials.  I don't do anything additional than the account is privileged.  It works with FW from 10.5.x through 11.  FWIW, the V11 is docker only.

Ok, I also have a privileged account just for backups, but not the admin account.   Is there any other permissions that you give to it?  What version of firmware are you running?

I am using a privileged account, but not the "admin" account.  So you may be onto something.  What is the permission string for your user?

Yes, but nothing seems to be hitting the logs.

What permissions do you give the credentials that connect to the Datapower?  I'm wondering if that is an issue.  I am also trying to do a full export, which I can create and download on some of my Datapowers, but not all of them, which is kind of weird

I use Java rather than Python, but I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the language.   I have no problems exporting anything from temporary.

Have you turned on internal logging and examined the log to see if there is any error or indication related to the export attempt?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 08:01 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I can create the backup, I just can't retrieve the files from Temporary.   I may try saving them in Local and see if I can pull from there

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 05:50 AM
From: Andreas Brand
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

------------------------------
Andreas Brand

What FW are you on.  Unless it is really old, I can at least light up a quick docker with that version and test to see if it works on that one.

I used to be able to do this in WAMC, but the server does use the latest TLS, and non of the browsers will connect.

I'm doing it with KumbaSoft's DPAA, which uses the XMI with the account credentials.  I don't do anything additional than the account is privileged.  It works with FW from 10.5.x through 11.  FWIW, the V11 is docker only.

Ok, I also have a privileged account just for backups, but not the admin account.   Is there any other permissions that you give to it?  What version of firmware are you running?

I am using a privileged account, but not the "admin" account.  So you may be onto something.  What is the permission string for your user?

Yes, but nothing seems to be hitting the logs.

What permissions do you give the credentials that connect to the Datapower?  I'm wondering if that is an issue.  I am also trying to do a full export, which I can create and download on some of my Datapowers, but not all of them, which is kind of weird

I use Java rather than Python, but I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the language.   I have no problems exporting anything from temporary.

Have you turned on internal logging and examined the log to see if there is any error or indication related to the export attempt?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 08:01 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I can create the backup, I just can't retrieve the files from Temporary.   I may try saving them in Local and see if I can pull from there

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 05:50 AM
From: Andreas Brand
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

------------------------------
Andreas Brand

We are running IDG.10.6.0.9

What FW are you on.  Unless it is really old, I can at least light up a quick docker with that version and test to see if it works on that one.

I used to be able to do this in WAMC, but the server does use the latest TLS, and non of the browsers will connect.

I'm doing it with KumbaSoft's DPAA, which uses the XMI with the account credentials.  I don't do anything additional than the account is privileged.  It works with FW from 10.5.x through 11.  FWIW, the V11 is docker only.

Ok, I also have a privileged account just for backups, but not the admin account.   Is there any other permissions that you give to it?  What version of firmware are you running?

I am using a privileged account, but not the "admin" account.  So you may be onto something.  What is the permission string for your user?

Yes, but nothing seems to be hitting the logs.

What permissions do you give the credentials that connect to the Datapower?  I'm wondering if that is an issue.  I am also trying to do a full export, which I can create and download on some of my Datapowers, but not all of them, which is kind of weird

I use Java rather than Python, but I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the language.   I have no problems exporting anything from temporary.

Have you turned on internal logging and examined the log to see if there is any error or indication related to the export attempt?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 08:01 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I can create the backup, I just can't retrieve the files from Temporary.   I may try saving them in Local and see if I can pull from there

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 05:50 AM
From: Andreas Brand
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

------------------------------
Andreas Brand

Wow.  Now it's really strange.  I've tested on physical 10.6.0.9, VMware virtuals running 10.6.0.7 and 10.6.0.9, and dockers running 10.6.4.0, 10.6.5.0 and 11.0.0.0.  

Is your form-factor something else?  That is, it *could* be a file system permission issue?

We are running IDG.10.6.0.9

What FW are you on.  Unless it is really old, I can at least light up a quick docker with that version and test to see if it works on that one.

I used to be able to do this in WAMC, but the server does use the latest TLS, and non of the browsers will connect.

I'm doing it with KumbaSoft's DPAA, which uses the XMI with the account credentials.  I don't do anything additional than the account is privileged.  It works with FW from 10.5.x through 11.  FWIW, the V11 is docker only.

Ok, I also have a privileged account just for backups, but not the admin account.   Is there any other permissions that you give to it?  What version of firmware are you running?

I am using a privileged account, but not the "admin" account.  So you may be onto something.  What is the permission string for your user?

Yes, but nothing seems to be hitting the logs.

What permissions do you give the credentials that connect to the Datapower?  I'm wondering if that is an issue.  I am also trying to do a full export, which I can create and download on some of my Datapowers, but not all of them, which is kind of weird

I use Java rather than Python, but I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the language.   I have no problems exporting anything from temporary.

Have you turned on internal logging and examined the log to see if there is any error or indication related to the export attempt?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 08:01 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I can create the backup, I just can't retrieve the files from Temporary.   I may try saving them in Local and see if I can pull from there

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 05:50 AM
From: Andreas Brand
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

------------------------------
Andreas Brand

I've only tested on a physical Datapower, since I only run the secure backups on those.  That Datapower is a X1 (844152X )

Wow.  Now it's really strange.  I've tested on physical 10.6.0.9, VMware virtuals running 10.6.0.7 and 10.6.0.9, and dockers running 10.6.4.0, 10.6.5.0 and 11.0.0.0.  

Is your form-factor something else?  That is, it *could* be a file system permission issue?

We are running IDG.10.6.0.9

What FW are you on.  Unless it is really old, I can at least light up a quick docker with that version and test to see if it works on that one.

I used to be able to do this in WAMC, but the server does use the latest TLS, and non of the browsers will connect.

I'm doing it with KumbaSoft's DPAA, which uses the XMI with the account credentials.  I don't do anything additional than the account is privileged.  It works with FW from 10.5.x through 11.  FWIW, the V11 is docker only.

Ok, I also have a privileged account just for backups, but not the admin account.   Is there any other permissions that you give to it?  What version of firmware are you running?

I am using a privileged account, but not the "admin" account.  So you may be onto something.  What is the permission string for your user?

Yes, but nothing seems to be hitting the logs.

What permissions do you give the credentials that connect to the Datapower?  I'm wondering if that is an issue.  I am also trying to do a full export, which I can create and download on some of my Datapowers, but not all of them, which is kind of weird

I use Java rather than Python, but I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the language.   I have no problems exporting anything from temporary.

Have you turned on internal logging and examined the log to see if there is any error or indication related to the export attempt?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 08:01 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I can create the backup, I just can't retrieve the files from Temporary.   I may try saving them in Local and see if I can pull from there

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 05:50 AM
From: Andreas Brand
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

------------------------------
Andreas Brand

We once ran on X1's.  We're up to X3's now.   I don't recall issues on the X1's, but now, who knows.

I'm rarely stumped... but stumped I am.   The only suggestion I can make is trying it through cURL via either mgmt interface.  If it doesn't work there, then you're likely dealing with a permissions issue.

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: Tue May 19, 2026 09:54 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I've only tested on a physical Datapower, since I only run the secure backups on those.  That Datapower is a X1 (844152X )

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Tue May 19, 2026 09:33 AM
From: Joseph Morgan
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Wow.  Now it's really strange.  I've tested on physical 10.6.0.9, VMware virtuals running 10.6.0.7 and 10.6.0.9, and dockers running 10.6.4.0, 10.6.5.0 and 11.0.0.0.  

Is your form-factor something else?  That is, it *could* be a file system permission issue?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Tue May 19, 2026 09:05 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

We are running IDG.10.6.0.9

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Mon May 18, 2026 03:20 PM
From: Joseph Morgan
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

What FW are you on.  Unless it is really old, I can at least light up a quick docker with that version and test to see if it works on that one.

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Mon May 18, 2026 02:54 PM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I used to be able to do this in WAMC, but the server does use the latest TLS, and non of the browsers will connect.

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Mon May 18, 2026 02:46 PM
From: Joseph Morgan
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I'm doing it with KumbaSoft's DPAA, which uses the XMI with the account credentials.  I don't do anything additional than the account is privileged.  It works with FW from 10.5.x through 11.  FWIW, the V11 is docker only.

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Mon May 18, 2026 12:04 PM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Ok, I also have a privileged account just for backups, but not the admin account.   Is there any other permissions that you give to it?  What version of firmware are you running?

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Mon May 18, 2026 11:51 AM
From: Joseph Morgan
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I am using a privileged account, but not the "admin" account.  So you may be onto something.  What is the permission string for your user?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Mon May 18, 2026 11:43 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, but nothing seems to be hitting the logs.

What permissions do you give the credentials that connect to the Datapower?  I'm wondering if that is an issue.  I am also trying to do a full export, which I can create and download on some of my Datapowers, but not all of them, which is kind of weird

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 10:40 AM
From: Joseph Morgan
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I use Java rather than Python, but I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the language.   I have no problems exporting anything from temporary.

Have you turned on internal logging and examined the log to see if there is any error or indication related to the export attempt?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 08:01 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I can create the backup, I just can't retrieve the files from Temporary.   I may try saving them in Local and see if I can pull from there

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 05:50 AM
From: Andreas Brand
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

------------------------------
Andreas Brand

The secure-backup CLI has the ability to push the backup file "off box" when done.  I would expect you can call same function from XMI and/or RMI.  

idg(config)#  secure-backup cd4_gm_cert sftp://user:pass@host/datapower/backup1/ova_cd4_nonprod "" onSecure backup to 'sftp://user:pass@host/datapower/backup1/ova_cd4_nonprod' scheduled (may take a few minutes to complete).Secure backup is complete.

------------------------------
Ivan Heninger
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: Tue May 19, 2026 10:08 AM
From: Joseph Morgan
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

We once ran on X1's.  We're up to X3's now.   I don't recall issues on the X1's, but now, who knows.

I'm rarely stumped... but stumped I am.   The only suggestion I can make is trying it through cURL via either mgmt interface.  If it doesn't work there, then you're likely dealing with a permissions issue.

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Tue May 19, 2026 09:54 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I've only tested on a physical Datapower, since I only run the secure backups on those.  That Datapower is a X1 (844152X )

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Tue May 19, 2026 09:33 AM
From: Joseph Morgan
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Wow.  Now it's really strange.  I've tested on physical 10.6.0.9, VMware virtuals running 10.6.0.7 and 10.6.0.9, and dockers running 10.6.4.0, 10.6.5.0 and 11.0.0.0.  

Is your form-factor something else?  That is, it *could* be a file system permission issue?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Tue May 19, 2026 09:05 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

We are running IDG.10.6.0.9

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Mon May 18, 2026 03:20 PM
From: Joseph Morgan
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

What FW are you on.  Unless it is really old, I can at least light up a quick docker with that version and test to see if it works on that one.

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Mon May 18, 2026 02:54 PM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I used to be able to do this in WAMC, but the server does use the latest TLS, and non of the browsers will connect.

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Mon May 18, 2026 02:46 PM
From: Joseph Morgan
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I'm doing it with KumbaSoft's DPAA, which uses the XMI with the account credentials.  I don't do anything additional than the account is privileged.  It works with FW from 10.5.x through 11.  FWIW, the V11 is docker only.

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Mon May 18, 2026 12:04 PM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Ok, I also have a privileged account just for backups, but not the admin account.   Is there any other permissions that you give to it?  What version of firmware are you running?

------------------------------
John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Mon May 18, 2026 11:51 AM
From: Joseph Morgan
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I am using a privileged account, but not the "admin" account.  So you may be onto something.  What is the permission string for your user?

------------------------------
Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Mon May 18, 2026 11:43 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, but nothing seems to be hitting the logs.

What permissions do you give the credentials that connect to the Datapower?  I'm wondering if that is an issue.  I am also trying to do a full export, which I can create and download on some of my Datapowers, but not all of them, which is kind of weird

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John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 10:40 AM
From: Joseph Morgan
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I use Java rather than Python, but I cannot imagine it has anything to do with the language.   I have no problems exporting anything from temporary.

Have you turned on internal logging and examined the log to see if there is any error or indication related to the export attempt?

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Joseph Morgan
CEO - Independent


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 08:01 AM
From: John Parker
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

I can create the backup, I just can't retrieve the files from Temporary.   I may try saving them in Local and see if I can pull from there

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John Parker


Original Message:
Sent: Fri May 08, 2026 05:50 AM
From: Andreas Brand
Subject: Python script to create a secure backup and download using XML management interface

Yes, it is possible. I also run secure backup using Python, and it works perfectly.

My approach in the script is as follows:

1. Create a secure backup, wait for it to finish
2. Download the backup files
3. Delete the backup files (on the Datapower)

However, I use the Raidstore as the storage location. I've never tried using the temporary directory.

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Andreas Brand

SOMA and REST both have problems working with large files because the files are base64 encodecd and take up a lot of space.

The best approach to get files from secure backup is to let the secure backup request stream them to a FTP or SFTP server.  You would use something like <destination>sftp://YOUR-ID:YOUR-PASSWORD@YOUR-SFTP-SEVER:YOUR-PORT/YOUR-PATH</destination>

If you want to diagnose your SOMA problem make sure you have a log target that is subscribed to warn level messages for all types.

If you think your problem is RBM, you can turn on RBM debugging in the UI.  The debug messages will be in the default log.

If the above don't show what your problem is, you can open a case with IBM. Be sure to include your SOMA requests and responses.

Yeah, probably sending to a sftp server is the best way to go and I will probably try that.  I would have already, but I am running into a non-technical reason that is stopping me.

The weird thing is that WAMC  was able to do it somehow, and that worked up until a couple of weeks ago.

I also have an issue with manually creating a secure backup on one of my boxes.  It doesn't generate all of the files, even if I let it run for 10 minutes, while the other boxes take about 30 secounds.

SOMA and REST both have problems working with large files because the files are base64 encodecd and take up a lot of space.

The best approach to get files from secure backup is to let the secure backup request stream them to a FTP or SFTP server.  You would use something like <destination>sftp://YOUR-ID:YOUR-PASSWORD@YOUR-SFTP-SEVER:YOUR-PORT/YOUR-PATH</destination>

If you want to diagnose your SOMA problem make sure you have a log target that is subscribed to warn level messages for all types.

If you think your problem is RBM, you can turn on RBM debugging in the UI.  The debug messages will be in the default log.

If the above don't show what your problem is, you can open a case with IBM. Be sure to include your SOMA requests and responses.

>> I have a Python script that will create a secure backup and put the files in the temporary folder ...

As #Andreas Brand mentioned, have you tried local or on the local:///raid (if you have it and whatever it is named), rather than temporary?

>> I also have an issue with manually creating a secure backup on one of my boxes.  It doesn't generate all of the files...

Available space, maybe?

Yeah, probably sending to a sftp server is the best way to go and I will probably try that.  I would have already, but I am running into a non-technical reason that is stopping me.

The weird thing is that WAMC  was able to do it somehow, and that worked up until a couple of weeks ago.

I also have an issue with manually creating a secure backup on one of my boxes.  It doesn't generate all of the files, even if I let it run for 10 minutes, while the other boxes take about 30 secounds.

SOMA and REST both have problems working with large files because the files are base64 encodecd and take up a lot of space.

The best approach to get files from secure backup is to let the secure backup request stream them to a FTP or SFTP server.  You would use something like <destination>sftp://YOUR-ID:YOUR-PASSWORD@YOUR-SFTP-SEVER:YOUR-PORT/YOUR-PATH</destination>

If you want to diagnose your SOMA problem make sure you have a log target that is subscribed to warn level messages for all types.

If you think your problem is RBM, you can turn on RBM debugging in the UI.  The debug messages will be in the default log.

If the above don't show what your problem is, you can open a case with IBM. Be sure to include your SOMA requests and responses.

Sorry to jump in, when reading this I don't see a reason it wouldn't be possible to fetch the files via SOMA or ROMA.
We had a long time ago a similar issue with a secure backup on one of our boxes and reapplying the firmware solved it for us. 

>> I have a Python script that will create a secure backup and put the files in the temporary folder ...

As #Andreas Brand mentioned, have you tried local or on the local:///raid (if you have it and whatever it is named), rather than temporary?

>> I also have an issue with manually creating a secure backup on one of my boxes.  It doesn't generate all of the files...

Available space, maybe?

Yeah, probably sending to a sftp server is the best way to go and I will probably try that.  I would have already, but I am running into a non-technical reason that is stopping me.

The weird thing is that WAMC  was able to do it somehow, and that worked up until a couple of weeks ago.

I also have an issue with manually creating a secure backup on one of my boxes.  It doesn't generate all of the files, even if I let it run for 10 minutes, while the other boxes take about 30 secounds.

SOMA and REST both have problems working with large files because the files are base64 encodecd and take up a lot of space.

The best approach to get files from secure backup is to let the secure backup request stream them to a FTP or SFTP server.  You would use something like <destination>sftp://YOUR-ID:YOUR-PASSWORD@YOUR-SFTP-SEVER:YOUR-PORT/YOUR-PATH</destination>

If you want to diagnose your SOMA problem make sure you have a log target that is subscribed to warn level messages for all types.

If you think your problem is RBM, you can turn on RBM debugging in the UI.  The debug messages will be in the default log.

If the above don't show what your problem is, you can open a case with IBM. Be sure to include your SOMA requests and responses.

>> I have a Python script that will create a secure backup and put the files in the temporary folder ...

As #Andreas Brand mentioned, have you tried local or on the local:///raid (if you have it and whatever it is named), rather than temporary?

>> I also have an issue with manually creating a secure backup on one of my boxes.  It doesn't generate all of the files...

Available space, maybe?

Yeah, probably sending to a sftp server is the best way to go and I will probably try that.  I would have already, but I am running into a non-technical reason that is stopping me.

The weird thing is that WAMC  was able to do it somehow, and that worked up until a couple of weeks ago.

I also have an issue with manually creating a secure backup on one of my boxes.  It doesn't generate all of the files, even if I let it run for 10 minutes, while the other boxes take about 30 secounds.

SOMA and REST both have problems working with large files because the files are base64 encodecd and take up a lot of space.

The best approach to get files from secure backup is to let the secure backup request stream them to a FTP or SFTP server.  You would use something like <destination>sftp://YOUR-ID:YOUR-PASSWORD@YOUR-SFTP-SEVER:YOUR-PORT/YOUR-PATH</destination>

If you want to diagnose your SOMA problem make sure you have a log target that is subscribed to warn level messages for all types.

If you think your problem is RBM, you can turn on RBM debugging in the UI.  The debug messages will be in the default log.

If the above don't show what your problem is, you can open a case with IBM. Be sure to include your SOMA requests and responses.