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  • 1.  power 11 over exadata X11M

    Posted Tue July 22, 2025 08:59 AM

    Please, i will want to have all the advantage and disadvantage of power 11 over exadata X11M



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    Abdullahi Muazu
    Enterprise Systems Administrator
    Jaiz Bank Plc
    Abuja
    08162058450
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  • 2.  RE: power 11 over exadata X11M

    Posted Tue July 22, 2025 03:43 PM

    I'm not sure what you are asking here since I'm not familiar with that latter product.  But if you are asking IBM for some new function then you might want to try submitting an "Idea" at https://ibm-power-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas



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    Robert Berendt IBMChampion
    Business Systems Analyst, Lead
    Dekko
    Fort Wayne
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  • 3.  RE: power 11 over exadata X11M

    Posted 30 days ago
    Edited by Phill Rowbottom 30 days ago

    Hi Abdullahi,

    From past experience of Power8 v's Exadata & Exalogic, Power is much more performant and you'll run the same workload with much less hardware and expense.  A past employer looked at moving a critical application from Power8 to Exadata/Exalogic, the performance testing showed that they would have required 2-3x the CPUs to provide the required capacity at that time.  The cost was going to be millions more than remaining on Power8.

    Exadata is based on x86/Intel CPUs.  The same differences of Power v's x86 apply.  For Power10, that's around 4x better performance per CPU v's x86.  There is also the reliability aspects.

    Here is a white paper that I quickly found via google - https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/Power%20Exadata%20Compare%2015AUG21.pdf

    Phill.



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    Phill Rowbottom
    Unix Consultant
    Service Express
    Bedford
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  • 4.  RE: power 11 over exadata X11M

    Posted 30 days ago

    That 120 core E1150 at SMT-8 can churn out 960 threads at a time ( in just 4U of rack space) , add in some PEP2.0 so you only pay for what you use.



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    Alan Fulton
    Follow me on Twitter - @The_Iron_Monger
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  • 5.  RE: power 11 over exadata X11M

    Posted 30 days ago

    Hi Muazu, I have discussed this with Hakeem and he will address your request. Comparing Exadata11M to Power11 can be tricky at this time because you don't have Exadata11M benchmarks available on QPI or RPE2 or even SPECint and Power11 is relatively new so there again aside from the rPerf and CPW from IBM you do not have the benchmarks available yet but generally IBM does work to get those widely available. Since this is a comparison for hosting Databases and the licensing is per core the performance part beyond features is very important.

    My suggestion to you is since you have a Power Install base currently running with your Oracle Database and other workloads, it is best to first let your local IBM representative run some analysis on what you have and compare that to P11. You will need stuffs like HMCscanner, nmon, AWRs analysis, LPAR2rrd utilisation, storage analysis etc ...



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    Ibrahima Cherif
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  • 6.  RE: power 11 over exadata X11M

    Posted 29 days ago

    Abdullahi and others,  We do have the ability to help with these comparisons.  We can take NMON data from other non Power platforms and size your Model, processors, memory etc. so you know the costs to run these workloads on IBM Power.  We do take into account QPI, RPERF and CPW ratings too.  Quit guessing let us help you!

    https://www.fortra.com/services/ibm-power/capacity-planning



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    Tom Huntington
    EVP of Technical Solutions
    Fortra
    Eden Prairie MN
    9523349940
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