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  • 1.  os/2

    Posted Mon December 30, 2019 09:43 AM
    Where is OS/2 DDCS DRDA support?

    life cycle?  I built it for better service than this?

    z


  • 2.  RE: os/2

    Posted Fri January 10, 2020 02:46 PM
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    According to IBM United States Withdrawal Announcement 905-163 (Changes in support for IBM OS/2 Warp 4 and OS/2 Warp Server for e-business) issued on July 12, 2005:

    Effective December 31, 2006, IBM will withdraw standard support for the following products licensed under the IBM International Program License Agreement. Fee-based service offerings will continue to be available. These offerings will provide support beyond December 31, 2006, via a services contract. For information about the extended support offering, contact your IBM representative.

    Program   Program                                     Support
number    name                                        withdrawal date
 
5639-A29  OS/2 Warp(R) 4                              12/31/06
5639-F93  OS/2 Warp Server for e-business Version 1   12/31/06

    In addition, IBM will withdraw from marketing selected OS/2 Warp parts. Refer to Description for details.

    Replacement information: None.


    I've attached a copy of the notice to this post.

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  • 3.  RE: os/2

    Posted Mon January 13, 2020 01:24 AM
    For what it's worth -- the logical equivalent to OS/2 is now eComStation, that allows you to run OS/2 software on newer hardware.  Please see https://ecomstation.com for more information, or wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EComStation -- of course now that I look at it, the most recent version is from 2011.

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    Scott Tietjen CISSP
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  • 4.  RE: os/2

    Posted Tue January 14, 2020 08:52 AM
    You may also want to check out https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos/ for their ArcaOS, or Blue Lion. They claim to be able to run on more recent hardware, albeit 32-bit only, than eCommstation. And their lastest release was much more recent than 9 years ago.

    Mark Gutzwiller




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  • 5.  RE: os/2

    Posted Tue January 14, 2020 03:53 PM
    Scott, re your suggestions that  OS/2 (on steroids) would be as vulnerable as Windows, see the links below. I don't know OS/2 but I am sure it contained many lessons learned for 'big mip' systems. If it didn't it should have, e.g. features from Bell laPadula  model as per RS6000.

    Critical Vulnerabilities in Microsoft Windows Operating Systems

    https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/aa20-014a

     

    CISA Releases Emergency Directive and Activity Alert on Critical Microsoft Vulnerabilities

    https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/current-activity/2020/01/14/cisa-releases-emergency-directive-and-activity-alert-critical

    Some overlap between these publications plus other items referenced. There are also vulnerabilities in SW native to Windows including Remote Desktop and Powershell.

    Terry
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  • 6.  RE: os/2

    Posted Tue January 14, 2020 04:34 PM

    I don't recall ever saying anything about the relative security of an operating system that went EOL in 2006, if it was improved for the last 14 years as compared to today's Windows.  

    I suggested, in a private response to one of your messages, that Windows sees the highest number of successful security incursions because it is the most prevalent target and, in the consumer form, managed by the least competent of users.

    It would be folly to try to project what OS/2 might be like today, we are more than 13 years out from the last release.  The suggestion that, because many of the people who worked on OS/2 worked on "big MIP systems" (sic) (I'm guessing you mean the mass exodus of MVS folks from Poughkeepsie who moved to Boca Raton) that OS/2 by its nature would be more secure (securable?) than Windows is also a bit dubious, many of the security exploits we see today weren't even imagined on the mainframe systems of the 1990s.

    Given IBM's recent acquisition of Red Hat, I don't think that there's any amount of nostalgia for OS/2 will lead to its return.  Rather, IBM can (and should?) focus on making Linux and its key underware and middleware as bulletproof as possible.




  • 7.  RE: os/2

    Posted Wed January 15, 2020 11:32 AM
    My response (below) seems to have gone to the wrong Scott and I hope he reads this one!
    'Scott, re your suggestions that  OS/2 (on steroids) would be as vulnerable as Windows, see the links below. I don't know OS/2 but I am sure it contained many lessons learned for 'big mip' systems. If it didn't it should have, e.g. features from Bell laPadula  model as per RS6000.

    Critical Vulnerabilities in Microsoft Windows Operating Systems

    www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/aa20-014a

     

    CISA Releases Emergency Directive and Activity Alert on Critical Microsoft Vulnerabilities

    www.us-cert.gov/ncas/current-activity/2020/01/14/...

    Some overlap between these publications plus other items referenced. There are also vulnerabilities in SW native to Windows including Remote Desktop and Powershell.

    Terry
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    regards,
    Dr Terry Critchley   +44 7902269856


    "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." - Buckminster Fuller'








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