Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

5. RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

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C- -T

Posted Mon June 12, 2023 09:38 AM
Edited by C- -T Mon June 12, 2023 09:39 AM

you missunderstood, i am fine with the 3.9 migration but you can not expect a forced "dnf update" which updates ALL installed packages, therefore a documentation of upgrading ONLY the python3 packages is needed. this will lead to serious problems in an production environment.

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Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 12, 2023 08:39 AM
From: SANKET RATHI
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

This is done because python 3.7 is going out of support.

We cannot continue with python that is out of support and python-packages those are dependent on that.

I think your environment also would not like to have such packages those are no more supported by communities and suspectable for vulnerabilities (no fix will be released by community)

Thanks,

Sanket Rathi

Original Message:
Sent: 6/12/2023 4:21:00 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

 It is recommended to run "dnf update" instead of updating individual packages.

sorry, but this is not possible in an controlled enterprise environment. we have a very tight list of allowed packages and versions, updating all packages in that way is just out of question. you need to provide detailed descriptions how to upgrade the individual python3 packages.

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Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 06, 2023 04:55 PM
From: Mi Wang
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Hello SANGAMESH,

I have the following questions:

Is the above mentioned python 3.9 actually python 3.9.16 that has been discussed previously in the community?
Is the new python 3.9 64bit based, or it has dual runtime executables for both 32bit and 64bit, like python3.7?
As we don't have internet for our AIX servers, can we download the new AIX Toolbox repository from a machine with internet and copy it to the AIX servers?

Thanks

Mi

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Mi Wang

6. RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

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SANKET RATHI

Posted Mon June 12, 2023 11:12 AM

Apart from python3 there is another change which is moving packages to openssl 1.1.1.

As openssl 1.0.2 has also gone out of support and hence packages those are using openssl 1.0.2 also needs to be updated.

Now with all this if there are some packages using openssl 1.0.2 and some are using newer version and both of those packages needed by dnf then sometime there will be problem.

It is because the way older python and other packages are built. This was discovered recently and hence we have modified build of python3 and other packages and moved all pakages to openssl 1.1.1

Hence we are recommending to upgrade everything otherwise people might miss some important packages and face issues.

But if you really need list of packages that has to be updated we might be able to provide list and if you have them then just update them.

Thanks,

Sanket Rathi

Original Message

Original Message:
Sent: 6/12/2023 9:38:00 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

you missunderstood, i am fine with the 3.9 migration but you can not expect a forced "dnf update" which updates ALL installed packages, therefore a documentation of upgrading ONLY the python3 packages is needed. this will lead to serious problems in an production environment.

------------------------------
I regret starting this entire conversation
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 12, 2023 08:39 AM
From: SANKET RATHI
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

This is done because python 3.7 is going out of support.

We cannot continue with python that is out of support and python-packages those are dependent on that.

I think your environment also would not like to have such packages those are no more supported by communities and suspectable for vulnerabilities (no fix will be released by community)

Thanks,

Sanket Rathi

Original Message:
Sent: 6/12/2023 4:21:00 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

 It is recommended to run "dnf update" instead of updating individual packages.

sorry, but this is not possible in an controlled enterprise environment. we have a very tight list of allowed packages and versions, updating all packages in that way is just out of question. you need to provide detailed descriptions how to upgrade the individual python3 packages.

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I regret starting this entire conversation
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7. RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

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LUIS ABDEL AGUILAR JURADO

Posted Fri June 16, 2023 02:47 PM

do I need openssl 1.1.1 or I can have a OpenSSL 3.0?

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LUIS ABDEL AGUILAR JURADO
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Original Message

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 12, 2023 11:12 AM
From: SANKET RATHI
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Apart from python3 there is another change which is moving packages to openssl 1.1.1.

As openssl 1.0.2 has also gone out of support and hence packages those are using openssl 1.0.2 also needs to be updated.

Now with all this if there are some packages using openssl 1.0.2 and some are using newer version and both of those packages needed by dnf then sometime there will be problem.

It is because the way older python and other packages are built. This was discovered recently and hence we have modified build of python3 and other packages and moved all pakages to openssl 1.1.1

Hence we are recommending to upgrade everything otherwise people might miss some important packages and face issues.

But if you really need list of packages that has to be updated we might be able to provide list and if you have them then just update them.

Thanks,

Sanket Rathi

Original Message:
Sent: 6/12/2023 9:38:00 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

you missunderstood, i am fine with the 3.9 migration but you can not expect a forced "dnf update" which updates ALL installed packages, therefore a documentation of upgrading ONLY the python3 packages is needed. this will lead to serious problems in an production environment.

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I regret starting this entire conversation
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Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 12, 2023 08:39 AM
From: SANKET RATHI
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

This is done because python 3.7 is going out of support.

We cannot continue with python that is out of support and python-packages those are dependent on that.

I think your environment also would not like to have such packages those are no more supported by communities and suspectable for vulnerabilities (no fix will be released by community)

Thanks,

Sanket Rathi

Original Message:
Sent: 6/12/2023 4:21:00 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

 It is recommended to run "dnf update" instead of updating individual packages.

sorry, but this is not possible in an controlled enterprise environment. we have a very tight list of allowed packages and versions, updating all packages in that way is just out of question. you need to provide detailed descriptions how to upgrade the individual python3 packages.

------------------------------
I regret starting this entire conversation

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 06, 2023 04:55 PM
From: Mi Wang
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Hello SANGAMESH,

I have the following questions:

Is the above mentioned python 3.9 actually python 3.9.16 that has been discussed previously in the community?
Is the new python 3.9 64bit based, or it has dual runtime executables for both 32bit and 64bit, like python3.7?
As we don't have internet for our AIX servers, can we download the new AIX Toolbox repository from a machine with internet and copy it to the AIX servers?

Thanks

Mi

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Mi Wang

8. RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

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Ayappan P

Posted Mon June 19, 2023 03:08 AM

Both works (since openssl 3.0 also has 1.1.1 shared object in it's archive).

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Ayappan P
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Original Message

Original Message:
Sent: Fri June 16, 2023 02:47 PM
From: LUIS ABDEL AGUILAR JURADO
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

do I need openssl 1.1.1 or I can have a OpenSSL 3.0?

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LUIS ABDEL AGUILAR JURADO
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Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 12, 2023 11:12 AM
From: SANKET RATHI
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Apart from python3 there is another change which is moving packages to openssl 1.1.1.

As openssl 1.0.2 has also gone out of support and hence packages those are using openssl 1.0.2 also needs to be updated.

Now with all this if there are some packages using openssl 1.0.2 and some are using newer version and both of those packages needed by dnf then sometime there will be problem.

It is because the way older python and other packages are built. This was discovered recently and hence we have modified build of python3 and other packages and moved all pakages to openssl 1.1.1

Hence we are recommending to upgrade everything otherwise people might miss some important packages and face issues.

But if you really need list of packages that has to be updated we might be able to provide list and if you have them then just update them.

Thanks,

Sanket Rathi

Original Message:
Sent: 6/12/2023 9:38:00 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

you missunderstood, i am fine with the 3.9 migration but you can not expect a forced "dnf update" which updates ALL installed packages, therefore a documentation of upgrading ONLY the python3 packages is needed. this will lead to serious problems in an production environment.

------------------------------
I regret starting this entire conversation

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 12, 2023 08:39 AM
From: SANKET RATHI
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

This is done because python 3.7 is going out of support.

We cannot continue with python that is out of support and python-packages those are dependent on that.

I think your environment also would not like to have such packages those are no more supported by communities and suspectable for vulnerabilities (no fix will be released by community)

Thanks,

Sanket Rathi

Original Message:
Sent: 6/12/2023 4:21:00 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

 It is recommended to run "dnf update" instead of updating individual packages.

sorry, but this is not possible in an controlled enterprise environment. we have a very tight list of allowed packages and versions, updating all packages in that way is just out of question. you need to provide detailed descriptions how to upgrade the individual python3 packages.

------------------------------
I regret starting this entire conversation

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 06, 2023 04:55 PM
From: Mi Wang
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Hello SANGAMESH,

I have the following questions:

Is the above mentioned python 3.9 actually python 3.9.16 that has been discussed previously in the community?
Is the new python 3.9 64bit based, or it has dual runtime executables for both 32bit and 64bit, like python3.7?
As we don't have internet for our AIX servers, can we download the new AIX Toolbox repository from a machine with internet and copy it to the AIX servers?

Thanks

Mi

------------------------------
Mi Wang

9. RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

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C- -T

Posted Mon June 19, 2023 04:02 AM
Edited by C- -T Mon June 19, 2023 04:02 AM

as whoever is building the openssl filesets must be hit by the stroke of genius, there are TWO tastes of the openssl 1.1.1.X fileset...

lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     system           18 Jun 30 2022  latest -> openssl-1.1.1.1201
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     system          256 Oct 06 2022  openssl-1.1.1.1202
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     system          256 Mar 13 14:57 openssl-1.1.2.1201

as we were bitten by this nonsense more than once , i better ask before touching anything here. which one of the two versions are you using to build/link your packages?

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I regret starting this entire conversation
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Original Message

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 19, 2023 03:08 AM
From: Ayappan P
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Both works (since openssl 3.0 also has 1.1.1 shared object in it's archive).

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Ayappan P
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Original Message:
Sent: Fri June 16, 2023 02:47 PM
From: LUIS ABDEL AGUILAR JURADO
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

do I need openssl 1.1.1 or I can have a OpenSSL 3.0?

------------------------------
LUIS ABDEL AGUILAR JURADO

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 12, 2023 11:12 AM
From: SANKET RATHI
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Apart from python3 there is another change which is moving packages to openssl 1.1.1.

As openssl 1.0.2 has also gone out of support and hence packages those are using openssl 1.0.2 also needs to be updated.

Now with all this if there are some packages using openssl 1.0.2 and some are using newer version and both of those packages needed by dnf then sometime there will be problem.

It is because the way older python and other packages are built. This was discovered recently and hence we have modified build of python3 and other packages and moved all pakages to openssl 1.1.1

Hence we are recommending to upgrade everything otherwise people might miss some important packages and face issues.

But if you really need list of packages that has to be updated we might be able to provide list and if you have them then just update them.

Thanks,

Sanket Rathi

Original Message:
Sent: 6/12/2023 9:38:00 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

you missunderstood, i am fine with the 3.9 migration but you can not expect a forced "dnf update" which updates ALL installed packages, therefore a documentation of upgrading ONLY the python3 packages is needed. this will lead to serious problems in an production environment.

------------------------------
I regret starting this entire conversation

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 12, 2023 08:39 AM
From: SANKET RATHI
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

This is done because python 3.7 is going out of support.

We cannot continue with python that is out of support and python-packages those are dependent on that.

I think your environment also would not like to have such packages those are no more supported by communities and suspectable for vulnerabilities (no fix will be released by community)

Thanks,

Sanket Rathi

Original Message:
Sent: 6/12/2023 4:21:00 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

 It is recommended to run "dnf update" instead of updating individual packages.

sorry, but this is not possible in an controlled enterprise environment. we have a very tight list of allowed packages and versions, updating all packages in that way is just out of question. you need to provide detailed descriptions how to upgrade the individual python3 packages.

------------------------------
I regret starting this entire conversation

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 06, 2023 04:55 PM
From: Mi Wang
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Hello SANGAMESH,

I have the following questions:

Is the above mentioned python 3.9 actually python 3.9.16 that has been discussed previously in the community?
Is the new python 3.9 64bit based, or it has dual runtime executables for both 32bit and 64bit, like python3.7?
As we don't have internet for our AIX servers, can we download the new AIX Toolbox repository from a machine with internet and copy it to the AIX servers?

Thanks

Mi

------------------------------
Mi Wang

10. RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

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Ayappan P

Posted Mon June 19, 2023 04:17 AM

For AIX Toolbox package builds, we use openssl 1.1.2.X. This version of openssl has no weak ciphers support, so applications can't use weak/deprecated APIs. Packages built against this 1.1.2.X library will also work with openssl 1.1.1.X. But the reverse is not true.

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Ayappan P
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Original Message

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 19, 2023 04:02 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

as whoever is building the openssl filesets must be hit by the stroke of genius, there are TWO tastes of the openssl 1.1.1.X fileset...

lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     system           18 Jun 30 2022  latest -> openssl-1.1.1.1201drwxr-xr-x    2 root     system          256 Oct 06 2022  openssl-1.1.1.1202drwxr-xr-x    2 root     system          256 Mar 13 14:57 openssl-1.1.2.1201

as we were bitten by this nonsense more than once , i better ask before touching anything here. which one of the two versions are you using to build/link your packages?

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I regret starting this entire conversation
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 19, 2023 03:08 AM
From: Ayappan P
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Both works (since openssl 3.0 also has 1.1.1 shared object in it's archive).

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Ayappan P

Original Message:
Sent: Fri June 16, 2023 02:47 PM
From: LUIS ABDEL AGUILAR JURADO
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

do I need openssl 1.1.1 or I can have a OpenSSL 3.0?

------------------------------
LUIS ABDEL AGUILAR JURADO

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 12, 2023 11:12 AM
From: SANKET RATHI
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Apart from python3 there is another change which is moving packages to openssl 1.1.1.

As openssl 1.0.2 has also gone out of support and hence packages those are using openssl 1.0.2 also needs to be updated.

Now with all this if there are some packages using openssl 1.0.2 and some are using newer version and both of those packages needed by dnf then sometime there will be problem.

It is because the way older python and other packages are built. This was discovered recently and hence we have modified build of python3 and other packages and moved all pakages to openssl 1.1.1

Hence we are recommending to upgrade everything otherwise people might miss some important packages and face issues.

But if you really need list of packages that has to be updated we might be able to provide list and if you have them then just update them.

Thanks,

Sanket Rathi

Original Message:
Sent: 6/12/2023 9:38:00 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

you missunderstood, i am fine with the 3.9 migration but you can not expect a forced "dnf update" which updates ALL installed packages, therefore a documentation of upgrading ONLY the python3 packages is needed. this will lead to serious problems in an production environment.

------------------------------
I regret starting this entire conversation

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 12, 2023 08:39 AM
From: SANKET RATHI
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

This is done because python 3.7 is going out of support.

We cannot continue with python that is out of support and python-packages those are dependent on that.

I think your environment also would not like to have such packages those are no more supported by communities and suspectable for vulnerabilities (no fix will be released by community)

Thanks,

Sanket Rathi

Original Message:
Sent: 6/12/2023 4:21:00 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

 It is recommended to run "dnf update" instead of updating individual packages.

sorry, but this is not possible in an controlled enterprise environment. we have a very tight list of allowed packages and versions, updating all packages in that way is just out of question. you need to provide detailed descriptions how to upgrade the individual python3 packages.

------------------------------
I regret starting this entire conversation

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 06, 2023 04:55 PM
From: Mi Wang
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Hello SANGAMESH,

I have the following questions:

Is the above mentioned python 3.9 actually python 3.9.16 that has been discussed previously in the community?
Is the new python 3.9 64bit based, or it has dual runtime executables for both 32bit and 64bit, like python3.7?
As we don't have internet for our AIX servers, can we download the new AIX Toolbox repository from a machine with internet and copy it to the AIX servers?

Thanks

Mi

------------------------------
Mi Wang

11. RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

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LUIS ABDEL AGUILAR JURADO

Posted Mon June 12, 2023 11:23 AM

Hi,

My systems are in the exact same situation as C--T's systems, so I will require to upgrade a couple of packages.

Could you provide us documentation to upgrade single packages?

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LUIS ABDEL AGUILAR JURADO
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Original Message

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 12, 2023 09:37 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

you missunderstood, i am fine with the 3.9 migration but you can not expect a forced "dnf update" which updates ALL installed packages, therefore a documentation of upgrading ONLY the python3 packages is needed. this will lead to serious problems in an production environment.

------------------------------
I regret starting this entire conversation
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 12, 2023 08:39 AM
From: SANKET RATHI
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

This is done because python 3.7 is going out of support.

We cannot continue with python that is out of support and python-packages those are dependent on that.

I think your environment also would not like to have such packages those are no more supported by communities and suspectable for vulnerabilities (no fix will be released by community)

Thanks,

Sanket Rathi

Original Message:
Sent: 6/12/2023 4:21:00 AM
From: C- -T
Subject: RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

 It is recommended to run "dnf update" instead of updating individual packages.

sorry, but this is not possible in an controlled enterprise environment. we have a very tight list of allowed packages and versions, updating all packages in that way is just out of question. you need to provide detailed descriptions how to upgrade the individual python3 packages.

------------------------------
I regret starting this entire conversation

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 06, 2023 04:55 PM
From: Mi Wang
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Hello SANGAMESH,

I have the following questions:

Is the above mentioned python 3.9 actually python 3.9.16 that has been discussed previously in the community?
Is the new python 3.9 64bit based, or it has dual runtime executables for both 32bit and 64bit, like python3.7?
As we don't have internet for our AIX servers, can we download the new AIX Toolbox repository from a machine with internet and copy it to the AIX servers?

Thanks

Mi

------------------------------
Mi Wang

18. RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

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Joerg Kauke

IBM Champion

Posted Tue June 20, 2023 06:46 AM

just found out... salt is not the only package that is not available for sync or on the toolbox website. I found them directly on the https://public.dhe.ibm.com/aix/freeSoftware/aixtoolbox/RPMS website.
Maybe createrepo did not correctly work on your repo?

best regards,

Joerg

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Joerg Kauke
Unix Administrator
COOP Switzerland
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Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 20, 2023 05:42 AM
From: Joerg Kauke
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Hello Ayappan,

thanks for pointing out. Unfortunately it is not downloading via dnf reposync:

[SKIPPED] salt-2016.11.6-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-2019.2.3-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-2019.2.5-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-3001.1-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-3003-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-3004-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-3004.2-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-api-2016.11.6-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-api-2019.2.3-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-api-2019.2.5-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-api-3001.1-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-api-3003-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-api-3004-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-api-3004.2-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-cloud-2016.11.6-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-cloud-2019.2.3-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-cloud-2019.2.5-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-cloud-3001.1-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-cloud-3003-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-cloud-3004-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-cloud-3004.2-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-master-2016.11.6-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-master-2019.2.3-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-master-2019.2.5-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-master-3001.1-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-master-3003-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-master-3004-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-master-3004.2-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-minion-2016.11.6-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-minion-2019.2.3-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-minion-2019.2.5-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-minion-3001.1-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-minion-3003-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-minion-3004-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-minion-3004.2-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-ssh-2016.11.6-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-ssh-2019.2.3-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-ssh-2019.2.5-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-ssh-3001.1-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-ssh-3003-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-ssh-3004-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-ssh-3004.2-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-syndic-2016.11.6-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-syndic-2019.2.3-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-syndic-2019.2.5-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-syndic-3001.1-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-syndic-3003-1.aix6.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-syndic-3004-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded[SKIPPED] salt-syndic-3004.2-1.aix7.1.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded

Any idea why?

svrsyum-0:/yum_db#dnf list salt-minionLast metadata expiration check: 0:05:59 ago on Tue Jun 20 11:35:26 2023.Installed Packagessalt-minion.noarch                                                           3004.2-1                                                           @AIX_Toolbox_noarchAvailable Packagessalt-minion.noarch                                                           3004.2-2                                                           AIX_Toolbox_noarch

best regards,
Joerg

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Joerg Kauke
Unix Administrator
COOP Switzerland
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Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 20, 2023 04:31 AM
From: Ayappan P
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

salt is also updated to use python3.9. The new version is 3004.2-2. Please check it again.

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Ayappan P

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 20, 2023 04:27 AM
From: Joerg Kauke
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Hello Sangamesh, hello Team,

I just tried to dnf update on one of our test systems. It is not working that way. Some dependencies are preventing the update...

We are using Salt for managing our system and the salt version in the AIX toolbox depends on Python3.7m. Therefore we need urgent an updated version of salt...

We are starting the migration of our environment in about three weeks and I would'nt like to have a unsupported version of python installed.
Is it planned to update salt from your side? Do you have a time frame for the release?

Many thanks in advance.
best regards,
Joerg

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Joerg Kauke
Unix Administrator
COOP Switzerland

25. RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

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SANGAMESH MALLAYYA

Posted Fri June 30, 2023 01:50 AM

It would be available in 1-2 days.

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SANGAMESH
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Jan Harris

Posted Tue August 29, 2023 07:17 PM

For closure sake, I am confirming

This is fixed in rpm.rte 4.15.1.1011‌

4.15.1.1010

ls -ld /usr/opt/rpm/libdrwxrwxrwx 5 root system 4096 Aug 29 17:44 /usr/opt/rpm/lib

4.15.1.1011

ls -ld /usr/opt/rpm/lib
drwxr-xr-x 5 root system 4096 Aug 29 18:01 /usr/opt/rpm/lib

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Jan Harris
AIX Development Support (Liaison to the AIX Toolbox for Open Source)
IBM (Contract)
Austin TX
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32. RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

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Ayappan P

Posted Fri July 07, 2023 03:46 AM

Hi Antonio,

The answer is already there in the second paragraph of my thread.

" In AIX 7.1 & 7.2 , rpm.rte package is a 32bit build and hence the dnf is also 32bit. So if you want to import dnf modules through python3, then you have to use 32bit python3 which is /opt/freeware/libexec/python3.9_32 "

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Ayappan P
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35. RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

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Joerg Kauke

IBM Champion

Posted Fri July 07, 2023 04:33 AM

My colleague found a kind of solution as following:

rpm -ivh libgcc10-10.3.0-6.aix7.3.ppc.rpm
rpm -ivh libstdcplusplus10-10.3.0-6.aix7.3.ppc.rpm
rpm -ivh libgomp10-10.3.0-6.aix7.3.ppc.rpm

cd /opt/freeware/lib64
ln -sf ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libatomic.a libatomic.a
ln -sf ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libgcc_s.a libgcc_s.a
ln -sf ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libgomp.a libgomp.a
ln -sf ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libstdc++.a libstdc++.a

cd /opt/freeware/lib/pthread/
ln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libatomic.a libatomic.a
ln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libatomic.a libatomic.a
ln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libgcc_s.a libgcc_s.a
ln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libgomp.a libgomp.a
ln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libstdc++.a libstdc++.a

But this is not a solution that I want to build in my update script. Please Team, could you get into this and provide a better solution ?

Thanks a lot...

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Joerg Kauke
Unix Administrator
COOP Switzerland
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36. RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

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SANGAMESH MALLAYYA

Posted Fri July 07, 2023 05:02 AM

Hi Joerg,

This will always be the case if metapackges (libgcc-10, libstdc++-10) are installed correctly.

And these packages will be installed by default with dnf update.

# cd /opt/freeware/lib64

# ls -l libgcc* libstdc* libatomic* libgomp*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root system 54 Nov 30 2021 libatomic.a -> ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libatomic.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root system 53 Nov 30 2021 libgcc_s.a -> ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libgcc_s.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root system 52 Nov 30 2021 libgomp.a -> ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libgomp.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root system 54 Nov 30 2021 libstdc++.a -> ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libstdc++.a

# rpm -qf /opt/freeware/lib64/libgcc_s.a /opt/freeware/lib64/libstdc++.a
libgcc-10-2.ppc
libstdc++-10-2.ppc

# rpm -qf /opt/freeware/lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libgcc_s.a
libgcc10-10.3.0-6.ppc

# rpm -qf /opt/freeware/lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libstdc++.a
libstdc++10-10.3.0-6.ppc

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SANGAMESH
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Original Message:
Sent: Fri July 07, 2023 04:32 AM
From: Joerg Kauke
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

My colleague found a kind of solution as following:

rpm -ivh libgcc10-10.3.0-6.aix7.3.ppc.rpmrpm -ivh libstdcplusplus10-10.3.0-6.aix7.3.ppc.rpmrpm -ivh libgomp10-10.3.0-6.aix7.3.ppc.rpmcd /opt/freeware/lib64ln -sf ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libatomic.a libatomic.aln -sf ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libgcc_s.a libgcc_s.aln -sf ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libgomp.a libgomp.aln -sf ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libstdc++.a libstdc++.acd /opt/freeware/lib/pthread/ln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libatomic.a libatomic.aln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libatomic.a libatomic.aln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libgcc_s.a libgcc_s.aln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libgomp.a libgomp.aln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libstdc++.a libstdc++.a

But this is not a solution that I want to build in my update script. Please Team, could you get into this and provide a better solution ?

Thanks a lot...

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Joerg Kauke
Unix Administrator
COOP Switzerland
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Original Message:
Sent: Fri July 07, 2023 02:07 AM
From: Joerg Kauke
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Hi Scott.

Did you solve this error? Can you tell me how?
I have the exact same error on two out of 16 systems after the update...

Thanks a lot in advance.

best regards

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Joerg Kauke
Unix Administrator
COOP Switzerland

Original Message:
Sent: Fri June 23, 2023 12:07 PM
From: Scott Brown
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

So I get these same *.py errors when I try and run a dnf update. How do I get around this? Does anyone know?

# dnf update

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "/opt/freeware/bin/dnf", line 58, in <module>

from dnf.cli import main

File "/opt/freeware/lib/python3.9/site-packages/dnf/__init__.py", line 30, in <module>

import dnf.base

File "/opt/freeware/lib/python3.9/site-packages/dnf/base.py", line 29, in <module>

import libdnf.transaction

File "/opt/freeware/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/libdnf/__init__.py", line 3, in <module>

from . import common_types

File "/opt/freeware/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/libdnf/common_types.py", line 13, in <module>

from . import _common_types

ImportError: Symbol resolution failed for /opt/freeware/lib64/libdnf.a(libdnf.so.2) because:

Symbol _ZZNSt19_Sp_make_shared_tag5_S_tiEvE5__tag (number 270) is not exported from dependent

module /opt/freeware/lib/pthread/libstdc++.a(libstdc++.so.6).

Symbol _ZTSSt19_Sp_make_shared_tag (number 271) is not exported from dependent

module /opt/freeware/lib/pthread/libstdc++.a(libstdc++.so.6).

Examine .loader section symbols with the 'dump -Tv' command.

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Scott Brown
America First Credit Union
Riverdale UT

Original Message:
Sent: Thu June 22, 2023 10:59 AM
From: Kamil P
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Hello,
Why to run DNF the python3.9 is used from /opt/freeware/libexec/python3.9_32 and not from /opt/freeware/bin/python3.9 ?
This causes me a problem with the chef-client software and resource dnf_package which by default uses binary python3 which is a link to /opt/freeware/bin/python3.9 but dnf module imported in /opt/freeware/bin/python3.9 ends with errors:

$ /opt/freeware/bin/python3
Python 3.9.16 (main, Apr 5 2023, 02:48:48)
[GCC 10.3.0] on aix
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import dnf
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
File "/opt/freeware/lib/python3.9/site-packages/dnf/__init__.py", line 32, in <module>
import dnf.base
File "/opt/freeware/lib/python3.9/site-packages/dnf/base.py", line 29, in <module>
import libdnf.transaction
File "/opt/freeware/lib/python3.9/site-packages/libdnf/__init__.py", line 3, in <module>
from . import common_types
File "/opt/freeware/lib/python3.9/site-packages/libdnf/common_types.py", line 13, in <module>
from . import _common_types
ImportError: Could not load module /opt/freeware/lib/python3.9/site-packages/libdnf/_common_types.so.
System error: Exec format error

Will it be changed somehow i the future ? will it stay that /opt/freeware/libexec/pythone3.9_32 will be used for DNF?
What is the difference between python3 in /opt/freeware/libexec from that in /opt/freeware/bin ? except it's 32bit. One solution to my problem is symbolic link python3 to /opt/freeware/libexec/python3 but it's probably not the best idea.

Regards,
Kamil

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Kamil P

37. RE: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

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Joerg Kauke

IBM Champion

Posted Fri July 07, 2023 05:36 AM

Hello Sangamesh,

thanks for your fast response.
We are migrating all our systems from AIX 7.2 TL5 to AIX 7.3 TL1 now. Alway in the night once a wekk 16 systems. All work is done by scripts...
One of these scripts is a edited version of your dnf install script. Just the download the dnf package from a local server...

How can I now solve this issue? In my script I uninstall all old rpm belonging to the old dnf version and then install the dnf package with your script.
Installation is always successfull, but dnf brings up these lib error on some systems.
Do I have to install these three lib rpm's mentioned above before I migrate the system to AIX 7.3?

Please help me out here...

best regards

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Joerg Kauke
Unix Administrator
COOP Switzerland
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Original Message:
Sent: Fri July 07, 2023 05:01 AM
From: SANGAMESH MALLAYYA
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

Hi Joerg,

This will always be the case if metapackges (libgcc-10, libstdc++-10) are installed correctly.

And these packages will be installed by default with dnf update.

# cd /opt/freeware/lib64

# ls -l libgcc* libstdc* libatomic* libgomp*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root system 54 Nov 30 2021 libatomic.a -> ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libatomic.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root system 53 Nov 30 2021 libgcc_s.a -> ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libgcc_s.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root system 52 Nov 30 2021 libgomp.a -> ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libgomp.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root system 54 Nov 30 2021 libstdc++.a -> ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libstdc++.a

# rpm -qf /opt/freeware/lib64/libgcc_s.a /opt/freeware/lib64/libstdc++.a
libgcc-10-2.ppc
libstdc++-10-2.ppc

# rpm -qf /opt/freeware/lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libgcc_s.a
libgcc10-10.3.0-6.ppc

# rpm -qf /opt/freeware/lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libstdc++.a
libstdc++10-10.3.0-6.ppc

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SANGAMESH
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Original Message:
Sent: Fri July 07, 2023 04:32 AM
From: Joerg Kauke
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem

My colleague found a kind of solution as following:

rpm -ivh libgcc10-10.3.0-6.aix7.3.ppc.rpmrpm -ivh libstdcplusplus10-10.3.0-6.aix7.3.ppc.rpmrpm -ivh libgomp10-10.3.0-6.aix7.3.ppc.rpmcd /opt/freeware/lib64ln -sf ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libatomic.a libatomic.aln -sf ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libgcc_s.a libgcc_s.aln -sf ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libgomp.a libgomp.aln -sf ../lib/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/ppc64/libstdc++.a libstdc++.acd /opt/freeware/lib/pthread/ln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libatomic.a libatomic.aln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libatomic.a libatomic.aln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libgcc_s.a libgcc_s.aln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libgomp.a libgomp.aln -sf ./gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.0.0/10/pthread/libstdc++.a libstdc++.a

But this is not a solution that I want to build in my update script. Please Team, could you get into this and provide a better solution ?

Thanks a lot...

------------------------------
Joerg Kauke
Unix Administrator
COOP Switzerland

Original Message:
Sent: Fri July 07, 2023 02:07 AM
From: Joerg Kauke
Subject: Migrating to python3.9 for AIX Toolbox python3 ecosystem