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Apptio Community Member

Apptio Community MemberThu January 04, 2018 05:28 AM

Debbie Hagen

Debbie HagenWed February 13, 2019 04:12 PM

Julie Batty

Julie BattyMon February 05, 2018 04:48 PM

Jenny Franklin

Jenny FranklinTue February 06, 2018 02:22 PM

  • 1.  Formula step order

    Posted Tue August 29, 2017 03:11 AM

    @Martin Reyes, I'm referencing your post Transform Pipeline Best Practices 

    Especially the point "If you need to break formulas into two separate steps, you have to have a blank step between them".

     

     

    How does this work exactly in the system? I can see, that the order is in an alphabetical manner, but cannot be changed. How can you change the order?

     

    Regards, Fabian








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  • 2.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Thu October 05, 2017 10:12 AM

    @Hardev Raikmo, can you check this with your engineers?

    Thanks and regards, Fabian


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  • 3.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Thu October 12, 2017 03:29 AM

    Hi @Ryan Paul, thanks for your answer, but "Use the Evaluation Order tab to sequence the order of evaluation of your formulas". How can we change the evaluation order you mentioned in the linked Transform Pipeline post?


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  • 4.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Thu January 04, 2018 05:28 AM

    Is there a response to the questions @Fabian Woldsen?


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  • 5.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Wed February 13, 2019 03:57 PM

    Your comment has been very helpul

    Adding a snapshot here for better reference

     

    Once you are in formula step / see the second tab at the bottom  ~  this is where "Formulas Step Order" is located

    then just switch your own formulas

    Regards

    Eduardo


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  • 6.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Wed February 13, 2019 04:12 PM

    Thanks for adding that Eduardo!


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  • 7.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Fri February 02, 2018 01:00 PM

    Was looking forward to reading the Transform Pipeline Best Practices  but the link says "unauthorized".

    Any idea why?


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  • 8.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Mon February 05, 2018 04:48 PM

    I'm getting the same - Unauthorised


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  • 9.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Tue February 06, 2018 02:22 PM

    Same


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  • 10.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Thu March 29, 2018 01:34 PM

    Hi @Shannon Wallner- is there a reason why we cannot access this one?  If I need to tag someone else for these types of things, let me know - and thank you as always!   https://tbmcouncil.jiveon.com/docs/DOC-5511 


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  • 11.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Tue March 27, 2018 05:32 AM

    Hi @Fabian Woldsen!

     

    In my formula step it does not show the formulas in an alphabetical manner in tab "Formula Step Order".

     

    I am on version Version r12.3.3.1.18.

     

    Best regards,

    David


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  • 12.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Fri October 05, 2018 03:32 PM

    Hi All,

    I took a peek and it appears that this document is behind a curtain and available for Apptians and Partners only.  However, I think this is great information from which all TBMAs can benefit so I've already contacted the document owner to see if I can move it to a public space.  Stay tuned... I'm sure I'll be able to make this information available to you all soon.

    Deb

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  • 13.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Mon October 08, 2018 02:42 PM

    Hi Folks,

    I've gotten approval to move the document referenced by @Fabian Woldsen out to where you all can access it as well. It's now located in Education Services... 

    Transform Pipeline Best Practices 

     

    Happy Monday!


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  • 14.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Mon February 10, 2020 03:54 PM

    Hi @Debbie Hagen, I just came across this post, but I too am seeing the "Unauthorized" message, when I select the link.  Has the document moved again?  Thanks for the help 


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  • 15.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Mon February 10, 2020 06:17 PM

    Hi @Samir Banker, no it hasn't moved again and it appears to be on a public facing page.  @Logan Brown can you check Samir Banker's permissions as well as the permission level of this page to see why it may not be visible?

     

    Thanks!

    Deb


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  • 16.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Wed February 12, 2020 10:15 AM

    Thanks Deb!  No biggie... we are in the process of upgrading from R11, so I'm just happy that we are finally getting to learn R12  


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  • 17.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Tue March 26, 2019 11:53 AM

    I'm late to this post but wanted to ask this question. If you had 15 formulas and you wanted to change the order is that possible? I only see an Ascending or Descending and I don't know if you change the sort if that really changes the logic. When I try to look at the document it says not authorized. Thanks - Sofia


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  • 18.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Tue March 26, 2019 01:41 PM

    Hi Sofia, you can't sort the order of the formulas in the pipeline but if your goal is to say that formula 1 must happen before formula 2, you can do this.  You'd need to add 2 separate formula steps to your pipeline with at least one other step in between.  The between step could be something like a date partition, but if you have no step to enter, then we typically add a group step or I've also seen people use a hide and rename step... we don't put anything in the step, it's really just a place holder.  Here is an example that the product uses in the Fixed Asset Master data.

     

    We added a group step between two formula steps and don't group by anything. It does result in an error but in this case it's an acceptable error.  We do this because we can't have 2 consecutive formula steps.

     

    here is what it would look like from the formulas perspective.  Using the group step between the two formulas steps, ensures that the formula or formulas in the first Formula step run before those in the second step.

     

    Does that help?


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  • 19.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Tue March 26, 2019 01:48 PM

    Thank you Debbie. This was very helpful. Now I have to test it for myself to see what mess I can make (jk).


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  • 20.  Re: Formula step order

    Posted Tue March 26, 2019 01:49 PM

    LOL @Sofia Angeles,

    Have fun with that. :-)


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