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  • 1.  Events Dropping without Routing Rules

    Posted Tue March 11, 2025 01:41 PM

    Hi guys,

    We want to drop some events at the EC level before coming to the EP. Is there a method for this, has anyone tried it before?


    Thanks in advance



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    Adem Güler
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  • 2.  RE: Events Dropping without Routing Rules

    Posted Tue March 11, 2025 02:09 PM

    Hi Adem,

    It is possible to drop events at the EC level (before the EP) using routing rules in "online" mode.

    Although this satisfies your need to drop at the EC, I notice you specified "without routing rules" in your topic; I'm not sure why you want to avoid routing rules, but if for whatever reason you cannot use them, your only other option would be to prevent the events from being ingested at all. This can be handled in multiple ways, depending on the mechanism used to collect the data. Our WinCollect agent can have filters configured such that it only sends certain events. Other syslog sources may have similar filtering capabilities, it depends entirely on what is transmitting the syslog events. Many of our protocols that "pull" event data via various REST APIs, JDBC queries, and so may have filtering capabilities at the query level, but again it depends on the specific integration. Likewise the protocols that use a pub/sub paradigm may have filtering capabilities, or useful data vs unuseful data can be separated at the topic/subscription/eventhub/etc level such that only useful event data can be retrieved.

    In short, online routing rules running in the EC are probably your best option, if you are willing to use them. If not, your goal may be doable, but it depends on the details.

    Cheers

    Colin



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    COLIN HAY
    IBM Security
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  • 3.  RE: Events Dropping without Routing Rules

    Posted Tue March 11, 2025 02:52 PM

    Hi Colin,

    Firstly, thank you for your feedback and detailed answer. The reason we want to avoid using routing roule here is that we think it will overload the system resources on the console. What is your opinion about this?



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    Adem Güler
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  • 4.  RE: Events Dropping without Routing Rules

    Posted Mon March 24, 2025 10:32 AM

    Hi Adem,

    Sorry for the delayed response. Generally speaking, routing rules are not considered to be very expensive computationally, especially for the Drop action (the Forward action is more expensive). But the relative cost of a routing rule is dependent on the complexity of the match criteria - if using inexpensive operations like checking the value of log source type, log source, QID, username, source IP, etc they are quite fast. If you would be doing a "Payload Contains" check or applying regex to either the full payload or to a property/field value, this will increase the computational cost. Can you provide any details as to the criteria for which you would be dropping events?

    Cheers

    Colin



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    COLIN HAY
    IBM Security
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