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Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

  • 1.  Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Wed September 27, 2023 11:06 AM

    Hi Brains Trust,

    When re-ordering cube dimensions today via Architect (don't have access to alternative UI for reordering) using the system determined order (-50% indicative improvement) the cube was successfully re-ordered, i.e. no error when applying.

    When the cube data was saved however the file size went from approx. 6MB (I know why bother) to 47GB, yes GB. 

    Other cubes were reordered without issue.

    TM1 11.8.01100.20

    Microsoft Windows Server 2016 Standard Server 10.0.14393 Build 14393 (x86_64)

    Any suggestions why this might have occurred? Cube / Element Data?

    Thanks in advance



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    Joshua Robinson
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  • 2.  RE: Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Wed September 27, 2023 11:16 AM

    Hi Joshua,

    When I have to reorganize cube after a hudge delete of incorrect data, I need to :

      Launch a savedataAll (and waiting ..... waiting....)

      Stop TM1

      Delete feeders files

      Restart TM1.

      TM1 process all feeders with cube containing only "good" data

    Then all the "garbage" consumption is cleared and size dramatically reduce

    Perhaps could you try ?

    Regards,

    Philippe



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    Philippe CHAMPLEBOUX
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  • 3.  RE: Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Wed September 27, 2023 05:08 PM

    Hi,

    This was part of my workflow as well, i.e. all feeders were rebuilt once I had restored the original state of this specific cube.

    The issue was with the actual cube file (.cub) not the persistent feeders file.

    To your point, the cube data is relatively unchanged, i.e. cube data, and dimension elements have grown over time, nothing removed. 



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    Joshua Robinson
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  • 4.  RE: Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Wed September 27, 2023 04:20 PM

    Hi Joshua,

    You could do reordering dimensions in a cube in PAW Workbench as well.

    Best regards,



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    Svetlana Pestsova
    IBM Planning Analytics Product Manager
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  • 5.  RE: Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Wed September 27, 2023 05:10 PM

    Hi, 

    Thanks, I'm aware PAW has this functionality. 



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    Joshua Robinson
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  • 6.  RE: Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Tue October 03, 2023 05:18 PM

    Hi Joshua,

    Just out curiosity, did you try changing the order back and if so does the file size go back down to approximately those 6MBs?

    Also, how many dimensions does this cube have?

    Cheers,  



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    Hubert Heijkers
    STSM, Program Director TM1 Functional Database Technology and OData Evangelist
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  • 7.  RE: Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Tue October 03, 2023 05:30 PM

    Hi Hubert,

    I instead opted to revert the cube back from a backup. It has 6 dimensions. 



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    Joshua Robinson
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  • 8.  RE: Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Tue October 03, 2023 05:52 PM

    Sorry Joshua, have to ask, if you'd reorder again to the order you chose, does it blow up the file again?

    And if so, would it be a model (cube with supporting assets) you could share with IBM to study what might be off (6MB to 47GB can't be right IMHO).



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    Hubert Heijkers
    STSM, Program Director TM1 Functional Database Technology and OData Evangelist
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  • 9.  RE: Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Tue October 03, 2023 06:10 PM

    I in fact did it twice (applied reordering) as I thought perhaps the issue was caused by something other than that specific operation; same result each time. I was contemplating trying to reproduce in non-prod environment as well, but haven't done so yet.

    Shouldn't be a problem in terms of sharing, cube is not sensitive per se, but let me confirm. 

    Thanks for your assistance.



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    Joshua Robinson
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  • 10.  RE: Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Tue October 03, 2023 07:09 PM

    OK, so, I tried to reproduce in our non-prod environment (refreshed last week). The file size inflated as per prod, except instead of 47GB, it went to 70GB. 



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    Joshua Robinson
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  • 11.  RE: Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Wed October 04, 2023 02:44 AM

    Hi Joshua, sounds like an issue we also faced in previous version. After Upgrading to version 2.0.9.16 this issue did not occur again. Here is the related APAR: https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/PH46586

    https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/ibm_fixlist_planning_analytics_20916-2.pdf



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    Dominic Köcher
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  • 12.  RE: Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Wed October 04, 2023 05:04 PM

    Hi Dominic,

    This does indeed seem related, was there a root cause identified?

    It mentions string cube, does this mean the measures contained only strings? 



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    Joshua Robinson
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  • 13.  RE: Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Thu October 05, 2023 09:19 AM

    I think it affects cubes, having one ore more string element in measure dimension. In our case we had both numeric and string elements in measure dimension. I do not have any further information on root cause. 



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    Dominic Köcher
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  • 14.  RE: Dimension Reordering Inflates Cube on Disk

    Posted Sun October 08, 2023 05:14 PM

    Thanks



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    Joshua Robinson
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