One of our clients decided to include its z/OS assets (PL/I, JCL, HPS) in a DevOps process, using GIT. Checking IBM's references seems that the combination of IBM Developer for z/OS with RocketGIT is the default direction. Is there any other option (use of GitHub,etc.)?

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YIANNIS ZOGALIS
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You should definitely find a Git server. It may be Github, or Bitbucket, or one of dozens of others. There are also solutions that you can run onsite (not under z/OS however that I'm aware of).

You will also need the Rocket Git port to work with the z/OS datasets unless you want to copy the  z/OS data elsewhere.

For working on z/OS check out ZIGI - the  z/OS ISPF Git Interface.  It is an open source project hosted on Github.

If you have any questions let me know via a reply or private message.

Full disclosure - I'm one of the primary authors/contributors to ZIGI.

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Lionel Dyck
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Thank you Lionel for your reply!

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YIANNIS ZOGALIS
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Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 09:39 AM
From: Lionel Dyck
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

You should definitely find a Git server. It may be Github, or Bitbucket, or one of dozens of others. There are also solutions that you can run onsite (not under z/OS however that I'm aware of).

You will also need the Rocket Git port to work with the z/OS datasets unless you want to copy the  z/OS data elsewhere.

For working on z/OS check out ZIGI - the  z/OS ISPF Git Interface.  It is an open source project hosted on Github.

If you have any questions let me know via a reply or private message.

Full disclosure - I'm one of the primary authors/contributors to ZIGI.

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Lionel Dyck
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I believe that the Rocket port is a Git client, not a Git server.  This is a point of confusion I sometimes come across and want to clarify here.

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Matthew Cousens
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That is correct - the Rocket port is just the Git client.

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Lionel Dyck
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Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 11:03 AM
From: Matthew Cousens
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

I believe that the Rocket port is a Git client, not a Git server.  This is a point of confusion I sometimes come across and want to clarify here.

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Matthew Cousens
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I was just told that Gitblit is a pure java based Git server that can run on z/OS.

So go Git it and have fun :)

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Lionel Dyck
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Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 11:16 AM
From: Lionel Dyck
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

That is correct - the Rocket port is just the Git client.

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Lionel Dyck
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Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 11:03 AM
From: Matthew Cousens
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

I believe that the Rocket port is a Git client, not a Git server.  This is a point of confusion I sometimes come across and want to clarify here.

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Matthew Cousens

I took a quick look at this Gitblit page.  The way I read it, Gitblit is really not intended for "industrial use" compared to Github (or other Git implementations) so caveat emptor (buyer beware).

Scott is correct - Gitblit is for small teams. If you want to host the Git server locally then contract with one of the major providers for their onsite version.

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Lionel Dyck
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Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 01:01 PM
From: Scott Fagen
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

I took a quick look at this Gitblit page.  The way I read it, Gitblit is really not intended for "industrial use" compared to Github (or other Git implementations) so caveat emptor (buyer beware).

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Scott Fagen
scottf@21csw.com
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Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 11:44 AM
From: Lionel Dyck
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

I was just told that Gitblit is a pure java based Git server that can run on z/OS.

So go Git it and have fun :)

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Lionel Dyck


Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 11:16 AM
From: Lionel Dyck
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

That is correct - the Rocket port is just the Git client.

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Lionel Dyck


Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 11:03 AM
From: Matthew Cousens
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

I believe that the Rocket port is a Git client, not a Git server.  This is a point of confusion I sometimes come across and want to clarify here.

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Matthew Cousens

Well,

GitBlit does function really neat. I've been running it on the internal ADCD distribution here (small team enough lol).

If you'd like to get GitBlit running on your z/OS infrastructure, take a look at this write-up I made end of last year: https://zdevops.tumblr.com/post/189709191450/do-you-git-it

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Henri Kuiper
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Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 01:02 PM
From: Lionel Dyck
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

Scott is correct - Gitblit is for small teams. If you want to host the Git server locally then contract with one of the major providers for their onsite version.

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Lionel Dyck
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Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 01:01 PM
From: Scott Fagen
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

I took a quick look at this Gitblit page.  The way I read it, Gitblit is really not intended for "industrial use" compared to Github (or other Git implementations) so caveat emptor (buyer beware).

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Scott Fagen
scottf@21csw.com


Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 11:44 AM
From: Lionel Dyck
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

I was just told that Gitblit is a pure java based Git server that can run on z/OS.

So go Git it and have fun :)

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Lionel Dyck


Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 11:16 AM
From: Lionel Dyck
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

That is correct - the Rocket port is just the Git client.

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Lionel Dyck


Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 11:03 AM
From: Matthew Cousens
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

I believe that the Rocket port is a Git client, not a Git server.  This is a point of confusion I sometimes come across and want to clarify here.

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Matthew Cousens

But with just the Git client, you can do your version control on a local (shared) file system and push the repository to an external git server. You could even run a git server as container in zCX.

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ROB van der HEIJ
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Original Message:
Sent: Mon July 27, 2020 11:03 AM
From: Matthew Cousens
Subject: DevOps and z/OS assets

I believe that the Rocket port is a Git client, not a Git server.  This is a point of confusion I sometimes come across and want to clarify here.

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Matthew Cousens
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As mentioned below Rocket Git is a Git client and generally you use GitHub or GitLab or what ever Git Server your organization uses for other assets for your z/OS artifacts and the Rocket Git client is used as part of the build process with IBM Dependency Based Build or as Lionel says for a users personal clone to z/OS.   You can then use your choice of Coordinator (Jenkins or GitLab CI or Azure DevOps to name a few).  Jenkins Agent is Java and does run on z/OS natively, GitLab has made the Gitlab CI runner available as a container for Linux on Z so you could try it in ZCX.  GitLab runner supports a remote system that works very well with z/OS.   Using Git and DBB you can then store your artifacts in what ever Artifact repository you are using for other build output such as Artifactory or Nexus.  Using your standard pipeline allows you to plug z/OS into the same code rules or security scanning as well.

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Rosalind Radcliffe
Distinguished Engineer| Chief Architect for DevOps and CLM
IBM
Durham NC
919-543-4229
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