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  • 1.  Categorizing Untaggable resources in Cloudability

    Posted Mon March 03, 2025 11:04 AM

    I noticed that a large number our untaggable resources are currently showing up under AppID-"Not Set" in Cloudability, as it should because of the business mapping set up. But this makes it difficult to distinguish between resources that can be tagged but aren't and resources that cannot be tagged at all.

     

    I was wondering if there is way to categorize untaggable resources separately, perhaps by using business mapping to assign them an identifier like "untaggable" instead of "not set". This would help us differentiate between truly untagged resources and those that simply don't support tagging. 

     

    I'd love to hear your thoughts, suggestion, or any alternative solution you might recommend. 

    Thank you



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    Jesie Mbiatem
    FinOps Engineer
    TIAA
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  • 2.  RE: Categorizing Untaggable resources in Cloudability

    Posted Thu March 06, 2025 09:10 AM

    Hello @Jesie Mbiatem I'll get back to you with appropriate solution on it.
    Thanks!

    - Varad



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    Varad Rajeev Muthal
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  • 3.  RE: Categorizing Untaggable resources in Cloudability

    Posted Thu March 06, 2025 10:16 AM

    Not sure of the CSP in use, but curious to know how is the group identifying the resources that can not be tagged at all? 

    It's been said, typically the rule in CLDY has been if the CSP is passing a resource ID, then this should be a taggable resource.

    However, we recently uncovered in our environment this is not the case. Products Names containing Amazon Bedrock display a resource ID but not all of them are taggable.

    For example resource IDs containing:

    • "foundation-model" or "inference-profile" can not be tagged with an APP-ID.
    • "application-inference-profile" and "guardrail" can be tagged with an APP-ID.


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    Kevin King
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  • 4.  RE: Categorizing Untaggable resources in Cloudability

    Posted Thu March 06, 2025 11:19 AM

    Hi @Kevin King,

    So the CSP is AWS, and AWS has some resources that are untaggable. Then we also noticed that there are some resources that are tagged with AppID in the AWS console, but in AppID value show as "not set" in Cloudability, and not in the CUR file as well, so we opened a case with AWS and they  confirmed that some resources do not support cost allocation and  what that means is that even though they are tagged on the aws console with an AppID, it won't show up in Cloudability; 

    for example route53 ENIs, Access analyzer. 

    untaggable AWS resources like Textract, AWS config, secrets. 



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    Jesie Mbiatem
    FinOps Engineer
    TIAA
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  • 5.  RE: Categorizing Untaggable resources in Cloudability

    Posted Thu March 06, 2025 10:45 AM

    Hello @Jesie Mbiatem,
    The answer for query is "Yes you can do this within the business mapping logic. Typically anything without a resource ID is "untaggable", so you can add a rule for that into the business mapping, and default everything else that isn't tagged but has a resource ID to "not set".

    Thanks @Taylor Stallings for your help.



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    Varad Rajeev Muthal
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  • 6.  RE: Categorizing Untaggable resources in Cloudability

    Posted Thu March 06, 2025 11:00 AM

    Hello @Varad Rajeev Muthal. I appreciate your help and feedback.  I will work on adjusting the business mapping. All the untaggable aws resources show the AppID as "not set", and what I want is; rather than having "not set" for untaggable resources, we should have "untaggable". That way we can differentiate what can be tagged and what cannot be tagged. 

    Also we noticed that some resources that are tagged on the AWS console with AppID, show as "not set" in cloudability, so we opened a case with AWS and realized that those resources do not support cost allocation; meaning they might have an AppID tag in the AWS console, but the tags won't show up in cloudability. 

    That is why we want to differentiate between these resources/services. Our "not set" report cost if already more than a million usd, and this differentiation will help us know what can be tagged and what cannot be tagged. 

    Thank you so much for you feedback. 



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    Jesie Mbiatem
    FinOps Engineer
    TIAA
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