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Proposal: new term to refer to data scientists

  • 1.  Proposal: new term to refer to data scientists

    Posted Fri March 27, 2020 01:46 AM
    Ok, hope everyone likes the idea: We call physicists to people who study physics, biologists to those who study biology, neuroscientists if the do neuroscience... Datists to those who study data?
    I´m not a native english speaker so I don´t know if the term is already used to refer to sth different, I´ve googled it and it doesn´t seem to be the case.
    Let me know what you think.

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    [Marco] [Sánchez Sorondo]
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  • 2.  RE: Proposal: new term to refer to data scientists

    Posted Fri March 27, 2020 01:49 AM
    if you liked it I encourage you to start using it!

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    [Marco] [Sánchez Sorondo]
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  • 3.  RE: Proposal: new term to refer to data scientists

    Posted Mon March 30, 2020 06:33 AM
    Nice Initiative. I totally agree !!!!

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    Eng. Marcelo Ripoll  (ripollju@ar.ibm.com)
    L3 Certified IT Specialist, Member of Technical Council Argentina 

    Global Database Chief Engineer & Cognitive Analytics Leader 
    Application Hosting Services Engineering
    GTS - WW Infrastructure Services Delivery
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  • 4.  RE: Proposal: new term to refer to data scientists

    Posted Mon March 30, 2020 09:22 AM
    Hi Marco,

    Great idea! how about datatician?

    Laura Ojukwu

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    chizomam Ojukwu
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  • 5.  RE: Proposal: new term to refer to data scientists

    Posted Mon March 30, 2020 09:37 PM
    That´s a good idea as well, I proposed it as a form to refer to data scientists in a more fluent manner... Maybe "datitian" would fit better. In the end it depends on how comfortable the community in general feels when pronouncing it.
    So we have "datist", "datatitian" and "datitian". Let´s see which term people choose to use if they do so.
    Thank you Marcelo as well for the support!



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    [Marco] [Sánchez Sorondo]
    [UBA]
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  • 6.  RE: Proposal: new term to refer to data scientists

    Posted Tue March 31, 2020 11:49 PM
    I like the term and the sound of it when pronounced

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    July Manana
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  • 7.  RE: Proposal: new term to refer to data scientists

    Posted Tue March 31, 2020 09:21 AM
    I thought statisticians was the term for people who study data. :-)

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    Luan Au
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  • 8.  RE: Proposal: new term to refer to data scientists

    Posted Tue March 31, 2020 09:23 AM
    Hi Marco,

    Not a bad idea following the trend. Although some people may think you are saying 'dentist' instead of 'datist' depending on their speech.

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    Kelechi Nwachukwu
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  • 9.  RE: Proposal: new term to refer to data scientists

    Posted Tue March 31, 2020 09:24 AM
    "Data scientist" already respects this idea.
    neuroscience -> neuroscientist
    data science -> data scientist

    If there was a term for "data" only, and not "data science", then I would rather use "dataist" (in accordance with the word "dataism").


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    Alexandre Huat
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  • 10.  RE: Proposal: new term to refer to data scientists

    Posted Thu April 02, 2020 05:23 PM
    Datatitian might work but Datist does not seem to me to communicate what is intended. If I search the internet then I do find uses of datatitian.

    If I am the only person that thinks the following then certainly ignore what I am saying. Be aware that people might not consider Datatitian to be as impressive as Data Scientist. I might call myself a programmer or a programmer/analyst but Software Engineer and Software Developer are more impressive. I think Datatitians and Data Scientists are comparable to Bookkeepers and Accountants. I hope you do not mind me being negative but I think I am just expressing the probable reactions from millions of people.


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    Sam Hobbs
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  • 11.  RE: Proposal: new term to refer to data scientists

    Posted Thu April 09, 2020 07:10 AM
    Edited by Dami Sparks Omifare Thu April 09, 2020 07:11 AM
    I believe Data Scientist already represent your intent. However Data Science is a bit broad. As data scientists, we have different specialization or expertise. for instance, I am a data scientist specialized on computer vision. Probably given names to those specializations would be helpful. I have met a lot of data scientists with specialties like
    • Computer Vision (myself and my colleague)
    • Natural Language Processing.
    • ...

    We could give them names. what are you thoughts ?

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    Damilola Omifare
    Data Scientist
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  • 12.  RE: Proposal: new term to refer to data scientists

    Posted Fri April 10, 2020 05:51 AM
    Edited by Lawrence Lean Fri April 10, 2020 06:17 AM

    Hi Marco, and everyone participating here,

    I hate the term "Data Scientist" as anyone can use it as fluff or not; It has zero recognition indicating any academic integrity i.e. you can't cheat to get the designation like a solid university would (not knocking Coursera here: they do have fine print that most I would suspect ignore in a hasty "click" of that box, that said you had read the TOS and the privacy stuff. LOL: a simple fact check that can assess whether you did or not, and the context to which you did it, when you did it, self-expressingly you disdain for details, yet you are "scientific"? (did anyone gasp there?)

    For example, my dog in our never ending struggle for enthalpy, she wants entropy, and rearranges her fluffy toys often, no matter how I confine then, and can convey an infographic to many people on activity. I take a picture and communicate it to other people and they get her message, with her toys about her, flung or not. Is she with the data at her hand, not a better "Data Scientist" than most folks who can pick data out of Data Models (DM) that others capture, from source systems (CoS) then due to access of it, absent SME (subject matter expert) consultation, produce some verbiage that is of their "Data Science"? 

    Is this an "infographic"? 

    ET accepting his disguise to get on the down low? What data can you infer?


    Or is this an "infographic"?  

    By goods or service, and associated sectoral compositions within goods or services grouping.


    Being mindful of what the purpose of the "data" is and what information it is collected, in purposeful design to capture that data, a data scientist then would be a how to collect data scientifically confining the alleged "Data Science to say the IoT end devices where ever they exist, and the geospatial etc. to that.  

    https://lifehacker.com/this-graphic-is-a-rough-guide-to-bad-or-badly-reported-1567349868


    So I conclude the field is wrongly ascribed: it is truly "Information Communications Science" or a schmancy for marketing (sex sells eh) "IC Science" -- wow,that has so much mystery and intrigue I might want to study it myself :) 

    Or how about this more real world relational::

    Not Data Architect but the Data Engineer to use the Architecture

     
    In IT, big IT anyways, we have Data Architects. that design structures for data, captures, data models, and on and on.They usually work in context of IT training and supportive Business clients. It appears to me as lonely business but very sophisticated.  But what does a real world Engineer do with an Architects work? They make it work, by pulling out the form of the Architect into functional use, strong, fit, that can be displayed in the real world i.e. in IT speak, make infographics needed by management to get on with their jobs or by the public to get quickly what the heck is on going on near instantly with a picture of it.

    A picture is a 1000 words right? But what if it's a game changing idea, paradigm shifting? I would argue that might be a "million" words, lifetime changing, modifying past experience in that "I knew that" moment, instantly conveyed as "Instant Karma" moment in space and time (yada yada).
      
    Thoughts? We got to hammer a debate out or this is a waste of my time and yours. 

    Cheers,
    Lawrence 



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    Lawrence Lean
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