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  • 1.  What about FLASH

    Posted Wed November 04, 2020 12:54 PM
    Hello,
    Some DS transformations using Adobe Flash Player. Adobe Flashe is out of support & is desactivated in Windows.
    I'm using Herarchical Data Stage, & others components of DS using Flash.

    What is going on with the flash stop ?

    Jerzy

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    Jerzy Konarski
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    #DataIntegration


  • 2.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Thu November 05, 2020 09:44 AM
    Hi Jerzy,

    we had released the following technote regarding Adobe Flash and DataStage
    https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/hierarchical-stage-flash-player-end-support-dec-2020

    The technote also applies to the Unstructured Stage which isn't referenced by the technote.

    The functionality for both, the Hierarchical stage and Unstructured stage are available without Flash on the browser-based DataStage Flow Desinger with V11.7.1. 
    As the Flow Designer is backwards compatible to the DS/QS Windows client, you can use the browser based Flow Designer solely just to make specific edits to mappings for these 2 stages if needed.

    Just as a reminder. Flash is only needed when someone wants to make changes to the Hierarchical (XML/JSON) or Unstructured (Excel) mappings.

    Adobe Flash is not needed in any of the following cases:
    • Designing a job -- even when putting the Hierarchical or Unstructured stage onto the job canvas
    • Opening a stage editor and making changes to properties within the Stage editor (even for the Hierarchical and Unstructured stage)
    • Compiling a job
    • Running a job
    Lastly, if you do want to continue using the Flash based function, Adobe has partnered with Harman, who is their primary partner to provide a specific Browser version that still allows to run Flash

    Hope this helps,

    Kind regrads,
    Beate

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    Beate Porst
    Program Director Offering Management
    IBM
    San Jose
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  • 3.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Tue November 10, 2020 02:59 AM
    Just a remark. The interface of Flow Designer is really horrible and ant-ergonomic. It's time for IBM to realize that there is a human being behind the interface.

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    Jerzy Konarski
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  • 4.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Tue November 10, 2020 02:59 AM
    Just a remark. The interface of Flow Designer is really horrible and ant-ergonomic. It's time for IBM to realize that there is a human being behind the interface.

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    Jerzy Konarski
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  • 5.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Tue November 10, 2020 03:01 AM
    Just a remark. The interface of Flow Designer is really horrible and ant-ergonomic. It's time for IBM to realize that there is a human being behind the interface.

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    Jerzy Konarski
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  • 6.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Tue December 08, 2020 12:48 PM
    Hi Beate,
    We have a new system with IBM Infosphere 11.7.1.1 installed but DataFlowDesigner does not support the Unstructured Datastage (neither editing an existing stage nor creating a new one; it tells "This connector type is not yet supported"). We are using the "DatastageFlow_Designer_ISPKG for 11.7.1.1 Sept 2020", is there any more necessary or is the Unstructured Stage in the FlowDesigner simply not yet available to public?
    Regards
    Bernhard Gruber

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    Bernhard Gruber
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  • 7.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Tue December 08, 2020 01:36 PM
    Hello,

    I was able to use hierarchical data stage with 11.7.1FP1, but ergonomics are really bad.
    Is there somewhere the doc to configure DS client with Harman Browser ?

    I did not find it anywhere.

    Jerzy

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    Jerzy Konarski
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  • 8.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Wed December 16, 2020 11:21 AM
    Hi Jerzy,

    we tested the Harman solution for DataStage.
    They offer a couple of routes:
    1. A packaged browser:
    The packaged browser itself is not a workable solution for DataStage as it doesn't support applications developed in C# and using web browser controls which the DataStage Designer does.

    2. Plugin
     Harman also has a Plugin option (pretty much similar as the Adobe plugin) which is a workable solution for DataStage



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    Beate Porst
    Program Director Offering Management
    IBM
    San Jose
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  • 9.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Wed December 16, 2020 11:32 AM
    Hi Beate,

    so I guess there will be a hotfix provided by IBM to fix this issue shortly in the DataStage Designer (using the harnam solution somehow) until the support of DataStage on Premise ends in 2024 ?

    :)

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    Justus Kenklies
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  • 10.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Wed February 09, 2022 09:12 AM
    How accurate is this information?
    -...DataStage on Premise ends in 2024 ?

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    Thuan Nguyen
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  • 11.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Fri December 18, 2020 12:51 PM

    Hi Beate,

    I serched, but I don't find and I don't know where to find this Harman's plugin. Google don't know It.

    And i think it's not a real solution. The tool must be usable, I agree with Justus.

    I have big JSON & XML transformations that use Hierarchical Stage and I don't know what to do. What should I tell my clients?

    jerzy



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    Jerzy Konarski
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  • 12.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Wed January 13, 2021 07:00 AM
    Well then, although we held back that Microsoft Flash Removal Update, the HD stage is not working anymore and shows a big flash logo instead of the beloved editor.

    Let me mention that this type of issue is a severe disaster for the reputation of the software throughout my department. :/

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    Justus Kenklies
    Fielmann AG
    Hamburg
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  • 13.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Wed January 13, 2021 07:58 AM
    Same boat.  We are in the middle of a big implementation and trying to fix bugs and my developers are unable to move.

    Now I have to set aside my upgrade to 11.7.1 FP1 because I'm too swamped trying to patch Flash to work for production support of a huge project we implemented Monday...

    This is very sad.


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    Nate Hoy
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  • 14.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Thu January 14, 2021 07:06 PM
    Justus, have a look at the following Technote we created for the "January 12th" issue: https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6403307

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    Pierre Viricel
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  • 15.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Thu February 04, 2021 01:19 PM
    Hi Beate,

    Is there any detail document available on how to use Harman Plug in with Datastage ?

    Thanks,
    Vishal Joshi

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    Vishal Joshi
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  • 16.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Fri August 13, 2021 12:52 PM
    Hello Beate,

    Will you please let us know how to get the "Harman Plugin" (instructions on how to download, configure etc.) that will allow us utilizing the hierarchical stages - edit assembly for some time until we confidently switch over to DFD?

    Do we have to buy that plugin? 

    Pankaj Bhide


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    Pankaj Bhide
    Associate/Analyst
    Berkeley National Laboratory
    Berkeley CA
    (510) 486-4681
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  • 17.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Tue December 15, 2020 11:23 AM

    Hi Beate, 

    in the meantime the page no longer seems to exist. The link currently leads to an error page.

    I tested editing an HD stage with the flow designer today in version 11.7.1.1 and yes, I can open the stage, but I cannot edit it. My stage is having 11 steps. (1: Input, 2: sort, 3-9: HJoin 10: JSON Composer 11: Output). In the flow designer, the steps are horizontally organized tabs and I cannot find any possibility to navigate to the steps 9-12, because they're simply not visible. Changing the window size in flow designer is not possible. Changing the size or scale of the browser doesn't help either.

    ¯\_(˘・_・˘)_/¯



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    Justus Kenklies
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  • 18.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Thu November 05, 2020 10:08 AM

    We have the same issue.  We are running 11.7 but not at the very latest patch that allows full use of Flow Designer, so I'm struggling to try and get that working now, but it would be nice to have a way to keep using the thick client since Flow Designer has some significant limitations. 

    We've already seen a security fix to Flash break the Hierarchical Stage, requiring us to significantly lower the security of our desktops by adding "EnableInsecureActiveXNavigateToURL=1" to Flash's mms.cfg



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    Nate Hoy
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  • 19.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Thu November 05, 2020 10:47 AM
    I think the best way to develop is to define the job in the windows client and develop the stage in Flow Designer. Unless the November update improves Flow Designer ergonomics & fonctionnalities.

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    Jerzy Konarski
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  • 20.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Wed January 13, 2021 07:51 AM
    I opened a PMR and received advice to add the following to C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash\mms.cfg (create the file if it does not exist):

    AllowListRootMovieOnly=1
    AllowListUrlPattern=https://services_tier_host:services_tier_port/ibm/iis/ds/xmlpack3/XMLPackController.swf
    EnableInsecureActiveXNavigateToURL=1

    Obviously replace the services tier host and port with yours.

    We appear to be running Pepper Flash, and that is not working, so I am continuing to work with IBM to try other things for that.

    My independent research has uncovered two other parameters you might try, though they did not work for me, either:

    EOLUninstallDisable=1
    EnableAllowList=1

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    Nate Hoy
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  • 21.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Wed January 13, 2021 07:59 AM
    Hi Nate,
    what is your version of datastage?

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    Jerzy Konarski
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  • 22.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Wed January 13, 2021 08:34 AM
    11.7.1.0

    But we are running "Pepper" Flash v32.0.0.445 and although it looks identical to Adobe's Flash, there may be differences which is why adding the "unkill" switches to mms.cfg won't work for me. See other comments in here about that - maybe the mms.cfg flags will work for you?  

    At the behest of my senior management, I have just upped by ticket to Sev 1 since we now have production fixes on our new project that have short deadlines and my boss is running interference with the executive team to give me enough time to duct tape things together.

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    Nate Hoy
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  • 23.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Mon January 25, 2021 10:58 AM
    We use this tip: https://blogs.sap.com/2020/12/10/how-to-keep-enterprise-flash-applications-accessible-in-2021/

    In C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash\mms.cfg file we add that lines:

    EOLUninstallDisable=1

    SilentAutoUpdateEnable=0

    EnableAllowList=1

    AutoUpdateDisable=1

    ErrorReportingEnable=1

    AllowListUrlPattern=https://host:port






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    Piotr Ogrodziński
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  • 24.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Mon January 25, 2021 11:13 AM
    Thank you, Piotr.  I kept forgetting to come back and post that myself.

    One thing that I discovered is that the AllowListUrlPattern parameter is very specific (like you might expect, I guess).  It took me far too long to realize that, since we are in a domain, we register all of our servers with "(at)"ourdomain.com and I was not including the domain in my list patterns.

    So: 
    https://server:port/ibm/iis/ds/xmlpack3/XMLPackController.swf​​ did not work, but 
    https://server.domain.com:port/ibm/iis/ds/xmlpack3/XMLPackController.swf​​ did

    I also used the full filter for the URL Pattern as it restricts what Flash objects can be run more closely.  That way if we somehow had a breach in our Datastage servers and someone injected a bad Flash object there, it would not run under these rules.  It's a very unlikely scenario, but the single XMLPackController.swf is sufficient.

    We have moved up our timeline for Flow Designer and so far the latest patch of it seems to be doing fine with XML assemblies.  We haven't done a lot of testing yet, just installed it on a nonproduction Sandbox server.

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    Nate Hoy
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  • 25.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Mon May 10, 2021 10:17 AM
    Hi,

    I applied this method last January and it worked, but now the error is back:

    Flash Player Error. This application requires an Adobe Flash Player ActiveX control of version 10 or later.Get Flash

    Do you have any Idea?

    Thank you for your Help

    Regards




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    AMIROUCHE OUBELLIL
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  • 26.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Mon May 10, 2021 10:31 AM
    Hello Amirouche,

    It would seem that the Adobe Flash player was removed from your Windows client (i.e. with a recent Microsoft update), you might want to check if you still have it in the list of installed programs.

    Regards,
    pierre

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    Pierre Viricel
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  • 27.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Fri June 04, 2021 10:44 AM
    Hello,
    There is something that I may have misunderstood.
    I understand that for everything developed in flash Datastage is now bundled with Harman solution. So logically it is no longer necessary to keep flash if we installed the latest version with the latest fixes.
    That is true ?

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    Jerzy Konarski
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  • 28.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Fri June 04, 2021 11:18 AM
    Hello Jerzy,

    No, that is incorrect : DataStage is not bundled with any Flash Player.

    If the original Adobe Flash Player has been removed from the Windows PC you will not be able to use the Designer to edit Hierarchical Data stages any longer, unless you purchase/install the Harman Flash Player plugin.

    The alternative is to use the Data Flow Designer to edit Hierarchical Data stages, in which case it's recommended to be in the very latest release (presently 11.7.1.1 SP1) to benefit from the latest fixes and features.

    Regards,
    pierreVRCL


  • 29.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Fri June 04, 2021 11:19 AM
    Hi,

    I'd say no.

    As far as I understood, Flash is not bundled with datastage at all. The Designer GUI just uses Flash at some places and Microsoft is removing it from Windows, so you need to replace that component in the Operating System. Therefore, IBM is giving us the hint to use the new alternative and also helps us to get it - at least for a short period.

    Flash is used in the Hierarchical Data Stage and in the Unstructured Data Stage (and a third one I think), just to provide a graphical user interface to the developer. 

    • If flash is not available at the hard client machine: 
      • Dev-GUI for these stages will not function at all
      • The job itself can still be changed and compiled in the Designer, unless you do not touch an link attached to the HD stage (do not rename, nor change any column definition)
      • IBM claims that jobs and also affected stages can be worked on using the browser-based flow designer. (I cannot recommend that, but I also do not have the latest patch yet.)
    • If you patch the windows system and let it remove adobe flash, you can replace it with the harnam flash plugin. It's AFAIK basically the very same, since they bought the software from adobe.
      • Installing the harnam flash plugin is just a few clicks and - just works. You need to have a license for the plugin. We received a license from IBM for free, but that one is limited to one year. After that period, we need to license it via harnam.
      • The license tells you that the plugin may only be used with the IBM product and for nothing else. Since it automatically replaces the flash plugin for the whole machine, it inheritly also fixes other components in the system, like wiered printer driver GUIs or whatever. A side effect we cannot do anything about. ¯\(°_o)/¯


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    Justus Kenklies
    Fielmann AG
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  • 30.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Mon June 07, 2021 03:13 AM
    Hi Justus,

    IBM's attitude is incomprehensible and unbearable. The flash stop has been announced for several years and they have had plenty of time to anticipate it.
    Indeed, flow designer ergonomics are horrible and using it - when possible - is torture. And to use it you have to install the latest version of DS.
    I have customers who are using 11.5 and no longer have Flash on their development machines. It is a complete disaster.
    Is there a document that explains where and how to download the haranam plugin? Or do you have to open a case at IBM?

    Jerzy

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    Jerzy Konarski
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  • 31.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Mon June 07, 2021 04:09 AM
    We opened an IBM support ticket. IBM then provided a download of the Harman flash plugin directly via the IBM ticket platform including a licence for about one year. After that period, we have to license it by ourself.

    Another way seems to be contacting Harman directly. I couldn't find any online puchase form nor any pricing, so literally contacting them and probably getting individual pricing will be the way to get it.

    https://services.harman.com/adobe



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    Justus Kenklies

    All statements given by me at this site are my personal view only. I do not speak for my company.
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  • 32.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Mon June 07, 2021 04:17 AM
    Thanks Justus

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    Jerzy Konarski
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  • 33.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Mon January 25, 2021 01:24 PM
    Hi Piotr,

    It may work for old installs, but what if i want to install a new designer instance

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    Jerzy Konarski
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  • 34.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Mon January 25, 2021 02:26 PM
    Should work just fine for new installs.  The installer doesn't use Flash at all.  But your PC will have to have Flash installed as the Infosphere installer (as far as I know) does not provide it.  You will also need Internet Explorer (not Edge) installed so Designer has a browser it can invoke the Flash plugin call.

    If you don't already have Flash installed on the machine, then you will have to look into a source for the Flash plugin. Downloading one over the internet right now would be sketchy, of course, but you might look into the third party provider Harman -- Adobe (harman.com).  They are providing a supported installer for Flash and have committed to security patches.  But it's not free.

    You might see if IBM is willing to pay for it. We just decided to pursue an upgrade from 11.7.1.0 to 11.7.1.1 so we get support for the Hierarchical Stage in Flow Designer.   Re-enabling Flash bought us a few months until Microsoft (and our internal security team at my company) start pushing to remove Flash forcibly.

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    Nate Hoy
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  • 35.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Wed February 17, 2021 02:15 PM
    Today we moved to 11.7.1.1 ,We use Hierarchical Stage  extensively for XML and JSON files parsing in our projects.Encountered new problem for XML parsing , The input source has options "String Set,SingleFile and Fileset" in documentation , but flow designer editor has none of these ,instead it has options to load the schema library. The UI validation complains about missing data for 'input' , but there is no place holder in UI for adding the same.Has anyone noticed it in the flow Designer

    Regards

    Arun


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    arunsekhar chandrasekharan
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  • 36.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Mon August 16, 2021 09:12 AM
    Follow-up on this with a few months of experience under my belt.

    We finally had to give up completely on Flow Designer.  While there were workarounds for some of the issues (unable to scroll down beyond the first page = scroll to the last line, highlight it, hit DOWN-ARROW) there were others that were just untenable.  The slightest change to the XSD meant re-mapping everything, for example.

    IBM has given us a license for the Harman plugin and that is working just fine with (classic) Designer for the time being.  Our security group has left the Flash Remover tool active, so about every month we simply reinstall Harman, which is a 5-minute process.

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    Nate Hoy
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  • 37.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Fri September 03, 2021 09:11 AM
    Any specific link or number of web site for contacting Harman for getting this plugin? We have been sending queries from their contact page; No one is contacting us. Please share information ASAP. Thanks.

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    Pankaj Bhide
    Associate/Analyst
    Berkeley National Laboratory
    Berkeley CA
    (510) 486-4681
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  • 38.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Tue September 07, 2021 10:23 AM
    You have to contact IBM Support the get the plugin license.

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    LUKASZ KARCZEWSKI-KWIECIEN
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  • 39.  RE: What about FLASH

    IBM Champion
    Posted Mon November 15, 2021 08:55 AM

    Łukasz

    Currently IBM Support has no more HARMAN licenses. What is more plugin licenses were limited to end of 2021.
    It is a huge problem cause DFD desginer is not only problematic (sometimes even fields dissapered on canvas) but also has limited functionality (lack of full support for job parameters - you can provide them manually but for passwords that workaround doesn't work).

    It is great that CP4D will provide new one but Server jobs and sequences will not be supported. That will cause migration process which is long term. In both cases (DFD and CP4D) we just loosing some functionality.

    Regards,
    Marcin



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    Marcin Molak
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  • 40.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Tue November 16, 2021 02:53 PM
    We are still onprem and we loose functionality of working with json - which we have more and more of

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    Thuan Nguyen
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  • 41.  RE: What about FLASH

    User Group Leader
    Posted Tue November 16, 2021 11:22 PM
    Hello there Marcin, all,

    The Hierarchical Stage on Next-Gen DataStage will provide our customers with comprehensive functionality they are used to in the Thick Client. Our team has extensively reviewed how our customers use the rich features, performed developer interviews to address current use cases, and made design improvements (so the stage is simpler to use). Unfortunately, the DFD did not provide nearly as much functionality as we are building into Next-Gen DataStage. We would love to show the new stage to you and any others interested!

    In addition, CP4D will support sequence Jobs, including the activities our customers use today. Our team is working very hard on the built-in Migration service to make sure it covers the extensive use of Sequencer capabilities that will need to migrate to CP4D. 

    As to Server jobs, we have a Conversion utility coming out soon that can help to map Server jobs to Parallel jobs. There are plenty of nuances to Server jobs that we are building into the conversion utility, and if you have any use cases that are top of mind, we would love to discuss more with you!

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    Stephanie Valarezo
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  • 42.  RE: What about FLASH

    IBM Champion
    Posted Wed November 17, 2021 04:25 AM
    Hello Stephanie,

    For years I have meetings with development team. I have also meeting with Scott about Transformer and Hierarchical Data stages in cloud version. Currently I couldn't check second one (it is still not available in GA) but Transformer is much less useful than in the old desginer.
    At least:
    - there is no single view for the constraints - each of them belongs to output link view - it makes impossible to make quick derivation copy or check that otherwise link is in correct position (cause otherwise option is connected with links above the Otherwise link) 
    - there is no single view for outputs - we often copy part of derivation between outputs - it is mainly used for some pivots which are not efficient in Pivot or Hierarchical Data Stage
    It makes development much slower than in Designer.

    Even if CP4D will be better solution, currently we have IS on premise. CP4D is under development and currently
    - has no sequence equivalent (will have Watson pipelines)
    - will not have server engine - some part of functionalities were never be available in Parallel jobs like hash files, universe stage, possibility to have input and output link in one db stage (parallel has reject link instead), transform functions, iconv/oconv full support (conversion function is only subset of them)
    - strong architecture change (from monolith or module application into micro-services on OpenShift) that requires much more resources (currently IS 11.7 requires 8 cpu core only for IGC microservices - much more than full stack without them); that architecture makes also troubleshooting and upgrading much more complex (sorry but your scripts even not checked that non-root installation will failed during patching cause user is not beloning to docker group)

    If wee look from that perspective - migration from IS to CP4D will be long term process. It will takes months (even if some tool will be provided), cause some rework we have to do manually (in web tool cause DSX is also not supported and we couldn't change part of jobs just by simple text edit like currently we do). That is why, we need HD support in IS not only in CP4D.
    You have at least 2 years to make DFD usable and you know that HD will be problematic cause Adobe in 2019 told all companies that they will disable that technology. And you expect that customer will pay 1k USD for each Flash seat license, cause you not provide solution. Where is IBM value that you always talk about?

    M

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    Marcin Molak
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  • 43.  RE: What about FLASH

    IBM Champion
    Posted Thu November 18, 2021 01:53 AM

    Hello All,

    the two points that Marcin mentioned:

    - there is no single view for the constraints - each of them belongs to output link view - it makes impossible to make quick derivation copy or check that otherwise link is in correct position (cause otherwise option is connected with links above the Otherwise link)
    - there is no single view for outputs - we often copy part of derivation between outputs - it is mainly used for some pivots which are not efficient in Pivot or Hierarchical Data Stage

    I have also reported these to the Dev Team in the DaaS Slack channel. I really miss these features. This is stuff that you only notice if your work with the tool in a real life environment. Especially the single view of constraints in the thick client is very usefull. For the second point I use this a lot when eg going from a transfomer to a connector with three links (insert, update, delete) and having my targetcolumns not precalculated. I just have to do my expressions for the insert link and then drag and drop the columns to the other two links.

    As I had suggested in DaaS Slackchannel, DCP (Designtime Column Propagation) should be handeld differently in the Transfomer.
    IMHO the transfomer should be handled differently than other stages when it comes to DCP:
    a) If dragging a transfomer on an existing link (i.e. there is already a stage on each side of the
    link), then DCP should work a currently (DAAS) implemented
    b) If placing an transfomer on the end of a new link, then it should first not propagate any
    derivations to the outputlinks of that transfomer but you would do this like currently in the thick
    client (you can drag and drop all input column in one move). If later upstream a column definition
    changes or is added/deleted, then this should be propagated automatically.

    KR Ralf



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    Ralf Martin
    Principal Consultant
    Infologistix GmbH
    Bregenz
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  • 44.  RE: What about FLASH

    IBM Champion
    Posted Thu November 18, 2021 02:55 AM

    Ralf

    I have two hours meeting with Scott at start of the beta program. I show him how my projects looks like, what we use to make our job faster. All presentation was recorded and additionally I delivered part of code.

    When we have Cloud Transformer presentation (transformer on PowerPoint slides) I told IBM that is still has issues like DFD one. What is interesting on slides was presented concat function and it shown that solution designers doesn't get full tool presentation at all.

    Personally I don't believe that IBM bring back full functionality of transformer canvas. Even if we put request on slack or new (in that case old) functionality request system.



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    Marcin Molak
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  • 45.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Tue August 16, 2022 02:09 PM
    Hi All. Anything new on this topic?

    I have a new project starting on v11.5 that will be required to call a REST API. DFD is not available (and from the sounds of it would be painful to use). Not sure why they didn't just develop a specific client app to replace the Hierarchical Stage that would create a shared container rather than trying to force this square peg into the DFD round hole.

    I have contacted Harman to arrange a free trial of their version of the Player Plugin but from the comments I have seen I am worried about the cost.

    Rick Reeves

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    Rick Reeves
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  • 46.  RE: What about FLASH

    Posted Tue August 16, 2022 02:15 PM
    Edited by System Fri January 20, 2023 04:18 PM
    I would open a ticket with IBM and request the Harman version of Flash.  It's still far from ideal, and I really dislike needing Flash in my environment, but IBM is providing the Harman version on request (they pay the licensing cost).  I have been warned that the license supposedly runs out early next year, but given how hard it is to migrate to NextGen Datastage I have to assume they will find a way to extend the license.

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    Nate Hoy
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