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  • 1.  Safe Guarded Copy Toolkit: List of required programs.

    IBM Champion
    Posted Mon March 27, 2023 03:10 PM

    Does anyone know where I can get a more thorough list of required programs for IBM's Safe Guarded Copy Toolkit?  I tried the website at:

    https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/powerha-tools-ibm-i-full-system-flashcopy

    However it strikes me as incomplete and possibly out of date.

    Why do I think it's incomplete?  How can you "(ping) the storage, HMC, and source LPAR" if you do not have 5770TC1 loaded?

    Why out of date?  Do we have to hand code some CL programs and is that why the following is required:  5770WDS *BASE, 21?

    I hit the feedback and left comments on the incompleteness.  I figure that's more important than out of date.  That, and whether or not SEU is an ok tool for simple CL (as opposed to say, EDTF) is open to debate.



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    Robert Berendt IBMChampion
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  • 2.  RE: Safe Guarded Copy Toolkit: List of required programs.

    IBM Champion
    Posted Mon March 27, 2023 09:22 PM
    Edited by Satid Singkorapoom Mon March 27, 2023 09:22 PM

    Dear Robert

    On the practical side of this matter, I would not worry about TC1 because it is essential for setting up TCP/IP for IBM i.  I dare say you agree with me that practically all, or almost all - say 98-99%, IBM i servers/LPARs use TCP/IP.    It's a sure thing by practical point of view.

    IIRC, I think WDS option 21 includes SEU which is not mandatory because, as you said, EDTF is another choice if you want to write your own code to utilize FlashCopy CLI.    SEU provides one advantage of supporting prompting for parameters of the code you write while EDTF has no such feature.  So formally, I believe IBM's perspective is that it does not make sense to indicate WDS option 21 as "required" because of the availability of EDTF.



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    Education is not the learning of facts but the training of the mind to think. -- Albert Einstein.
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  • 3.  RE: Safe Guarded Copy Toolkit: List of required programs.

    IBM Champion
    Posted Tue March 28, 2023 07:38 AM

    TC1 was only being used as an example of why I believe this list is incomplete.



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    Robert Berendt IBMChampion
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  • 4.  RE: Safe Guarded Copy Toolkit: List of required programs.

    Posted Tue March 28, 2023 12:50 PM

    We'll work on getting the website requirements updated.  They tend to change with each release as different methods get added to perform various tasks, for example  REST interfaces instead of ssh.

    You said SafeGuarded Copy but referenced the FSFC toolkit webpage.  I assume that is because the Safeguarded copy  page  (https://ibm.biz/SafeguardedCopyToolkit) currently refers to the FSFC page for controlling node requirements.

    Yes, TC1 is required.  Assuming the external storage is Spectrum Virtualize (aka FlashSystems, Storwise), not DS8k, you'll also need openssh (5733SC1 Opt 1), and SS1 opts 30 (QShell), and 33 (PASE), and Java 8 (JV1 16/17)

    I'm not a sales guy, but I think most of those are no charge options of the base O/S, and some might actually be prerequisites of PowerHA 5770-HAS rather than the toolkit itself.

    I did verify with the developers that the 5770WDS requirement is to allow editing of the startup programs.  If you have a reasonable alternative for that, it could be omitted.

    All of the Technology Expert Labs Toolkits are sold with a services engagement to install and configure them in your environment.  Your assigned consultant will have deep knowledge of the toolkit and associated technologies and can work with your directly during the planning and implementation phases to answer your questions.



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    Technology Expert labs
    IBM
    Vincent.Greene@ibm.com


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  • 5.  RE: Safe Guarded Copy Toolkit: List of required programs.

    IBM Champion
    Posted Fri March 31, 2023 07:33 AM

    Thank you.



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    Robert Berendt IBMChampion
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