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  • 1.  MIPS - Useful today or not?

    IBM Champion
    Posted Thu February 17, 2022 10:58 AM

    Is MIPS irrelevant or useful today?


    We recently had some conversations in my company about if MIPS is useful or not and how they could be used across platforms. It spurred a number of conversations and alternating points of view. They were based on two perspectives:-

    • zOS person - they are essential in managing the z/OS environment, we calculate them in a consistent way so we can compare across LPARs. Outside of IBM z, they are meaningless
    • AWS person - how many MIPS does the mainframe use so we can size it in AWS, why can't you tell me this figure exactly for applications?

    Just throwing it out there to see what people's opinion is today, do you calculate them down to the n'th degree or do you consider them irrelevant?


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  • 2.  RE: MIPS - Useful today or not?

    Posted Thu February 17, 2022 12:09 PM

    MIPS are useful for the purpose you use them for.

     

    Cross-platform they are useless. An iPhone 12 probably has more MIPS than your z box. Do you think it could do the workload?

     

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  • 3.  RE: MIPS - Useful today or not?

    Posted Mon February 21, 2022 04:12 PM

    MIPS (or MSU) is usefull as measurement on a Z/OS-platform, and cannot be used to compare with other platforms.
    Imagine You have a diesel Truck with 500 HP and a petrol Ferrari with 500 HP - which one would you choose ? 
    You have to look at the type of workload and what the platform is designed for. The z-platform is excellent for massive amounts of data and transactions. It also is an all-inclusive platform == adding new workloads you just scale with PR/SM and manage with WLM, security (RACF/ACF2), crypto, back-up, disaster/recovery and much more is just there. The zOS-platform is a private cloud. Many have tried to move workloads from z to distributed and failed big-time. The savings aren't there. Many get blindfolded by looking at the $-numbers. For Z it looks as a big number, whereas the distributed has many distributed cost-elements that needs to be added together to get the true picture. 
    We recently upgraded our z13's to z15's, and went from model 7xx to model 6xx (subcapacity). With our workload we have seen a decrease in MIPS usage of +15%. This was achieved primarily through the effect of L1 cache.

    Also take a look at this webinar (z and devops) https://www.linkedin.com/video/event/urn:li:ugcPost:6892086009874456576/ 
    And this article https://jenselbaek.dk/zos/ - google translated https://jenselbaek-dk.translate.goog/zos/?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp  



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