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TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

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webMethods Community MemberWed December 07, 2011 02:08 PM

  • 1.  TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

    Posted Fri June 25, 2010 04:46 PM

    Hi there,

    I got a doubt on installation of TN, which one would be the best option i.e

    1. Installation of TN on DMZ
    2. Installation of TN in the internal network.

    Can someone please tell me which is the best option and why?

    Thanks in advance,
    veera


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  • 2.  RE: TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

    Posted Fri June 25, 2010 10:19 PM

    For B2B transactions scenario you can install IS/TN in DMZ (outside firewall) and another IS/TN internal network processing (both share same DB).There can be other options also it depends on your env feasibility.

    HTH,
    RMG


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  • 3.  RE: TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

    Posted Fri June 25, 2010 11:02 PM

    IMO, always put TN on an IS in the internal network. TN must have access to its DB tables. If TN is in the DMZ, then either DB server must also be there or the internal firewall would need to be configured to allow the access from IS/TN to the internal DB–neither are good options.

    Use a proxy of some sort, such as the IS Gateway (formerly Reverse Invoke Server), in the DMZ and put everything else in the internal/protected network.


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  • 4.  RE: TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

    Posted Mon June 28, 2010 03:19 PM

    I totally second Reamon approach :

    • We had DMZ TN when we’re using 6.1 and it’s really a nightmare to manage … if your applying expected security rules. And in security point of view, it’s not good having some intelligence on DMZ. More, in order to process the business, we had to enable some bridge w/ the DMZ and our private network. Those bridge are initiated by the DMZ component which is another big security hole.
    • Now, with 7.1, we are using an http gateway. Almost no administration because it is transparent so everything is done in the inner TN. And the security is far better because this http GW has no right so unable to access by itself to our inner servers.

    Bye

    Laurent


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  • 5.  RE: TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

    Posted Mon December 05, 2011 04:35 AM

    I understand the concept, but how does the scenario of sending meesages initiated internally to external parties work? Are they sent via the gateway, or directly from the internal IS?


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  • 6.  RE: TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

    Posted Mon December 05, 2011 05:55 AM

    Directly. The gateway is only for inbound traffic, never outbound.


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  • 7.  RE: TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

    Posted Mon December 05, 2011 09:21 PM

    I thought as much. Company I am currently working for a sensitive about sending outbound messages from an internal server. Any suggestions?


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  • 8.  RE: TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

    Posted Mon December 05, 2011 09:34 PM

    Outbound traffic could be directed via generic outbound proxy. IS provides support for doing so, if memory serves.


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  • 9.  RE: TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

    Posted Mon December 05, 2011 11:05 PM

    How is that setup done same via HTTP Reverse gateway route?

    TIA,
    RMG


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  • 10.  RE: TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

    Posted Tue December 06, 2011 05:19 AM

    It isn’t. The wM Gateway cannot be used as a proxy for outbound traffic.


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  • 11.  RE: TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

    Posted Wed December 07, 2011 07:35 AM

    RMG, just wondering if we could be confronted with such a need/requirement… though I feel the route Internal IS → RI/Wm Gateway → Proxy → External Partner would make a clean implementation for all outbound traffic.

    Cheers
    Guna


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  • 12.  RE: TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

    Posted Wed December 07, 2011 02:08 PM


  • 13.  RE: TN installation on DMZ or on Internal Server?

    Posted Wed December 07, 2011 03:56 PM

    What does “clean implementation” mean?

    What would wM Gateway do that a general-purpose proxy could not?


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