It will be easier for you to migrate to the SW version than to the CNT version as you do not need to change your data layer ("only" upgrade the ldap and DB to the latest supported versions) - moving to CNT will involve moving the DB to postgresql with export/import.
And yest - the SW will make debugging very simple - it is not that bad on the CNT but it is - different.... - but once a CNT is up an running there is a lot of things that the kubernetes performs that makes things much simpler - e.g. fixpacking the environment is very simple and fast compared to SW and VA - but there is no free lunch there either :-)
Original Message:
Sent: Thu October 23, 2025 03:48 AM
From: Andrea Gatto
Subject: The road from ISVIG (ISIM) 10.0x to 11
I agree about the limitations of VAs and the need to make troubleshooting easier (although, after a few years of practice, I've more or less learned to live with them).
Speaking of personal preferences (for whatever they're worth) and from a troubleshooting perspective, I'd lean towards a full software stack installation, where all components are directly accessible without the intermediate container layer.
That said, the container option is under evaluation; right now I don't know it well enough, and I'd really like to get to a point where I can compare all the pros and cons of the different approaches.
As always, thanks for your time and your help.
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Andrea Gatto
Original Message:
Sent: Wed October 22, 2025 07:13 AM
From: Franz Wolfhagen
Subject: The road from ISVIG (ISIM) 10.0x to 11
I strongly recommend to move to our container platform instead of VA as this also makes it possible to have the data layer (database and ldap) covered. The VA was not really a good idea for a process based thing like ISIM/ISVG - the closed form factor makes it difficult to debug in case of problems.
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Franz Wolfhagen
WW IAM Solution Architect - Certified Consulting IT Specialist
IBM Expert Labs
Original Message:
Sent: Wed October 22, 2025 07:01 AM
From: Andrea Gatto
Subject: The road from ISVIG (ISIM) 10.0x to 11
Fine!
That's the type of answer I was looking for.
Thank you Ali
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Andrea Gatto
Original Message:
Sent: Wed October 22, 2025 06:03 AM
From: Ali Malik Gürbüz
Subject: The road from ISVIG (ISIM) 10.0x to 11
Short answer : No.
IVIG 11 is based on ISIM and your documentation is here -> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/sig-and-i/11.0.1?topic=upgrading-from-isvg-im-va-ivig-va
With the FP1 IVIG 11 has Virtual Appliance and so has an upgrade path. But its not an in place , upload pkg and forget type upgrade. But it's also not too complex, just set up new ISO's and set same variables.
Long Answer: If you are ok with troubleshooting and rather closed box nature of VA you can follow the upgrade path. There are also lots of new features and infrastructure upgrades may be needed, like db2, ldap , better check them too, like documentation says. For example Security Directory Suite is out of support, LDAP 6.4 likewise, its better to move on Verify directory 10.x etc etc. So the amount of work will depend on your infrastructure versions. If all are already compatible you just install new VA's and migrate configuration and key files.
Hope it helps.
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Ali Malik Gürbüz
Bilgibirikim A.S - Turkey/EMEA
IBM Business Partner
13+ Years with ISIM/ISVG etc.
5.2.5 Certified Exam Developer *I* - 2019
IBM Champion 2025
Original Message:
Sent: Tue October 21, 2025 11:34 AM
From: Andrea Gatto
Subject: The road from ISVIG (ISIM) 10.0x to 11
Ideally just a very short answer is requested here...
Planning to upgrade ISIM from version 10 to 11
Current env: a single virtual appliance + a data/TDI machine.
Desired target env: a single virtual appliance + a data/TDI machine.
Is it possible to do an 'in place upgrade' (answer: 'yes') or it is necessary to go through building/migrating to a parallel environment?
(service interruptions are, of course, tolerated)
Thank you in advance for your time!
Ciao
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Andrea Gatto
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