For my two cents, agree with the other users on having the chevron indicate the child members correctly.
If Q2 was the last member, it just looks silly pointing down. Users will sit there clicking to try expand but it is already expanded above.
Worse than that, users will read 04,05 and 06 as children of Q1 as that is naturally how we read and have been taught to interpret the chevron.
It would be like making the top of the traffic light green and the bottom red but top still means stop. Lots of wrecks will follow. Cognitive dissonance.
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George Tonkin
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Original Message:
Sent: Fri February 04, 2022 09:54 AM
From: Svetlana Pestsova
Subject: The New Cube Viewer, trailing order, PAW 2.0.72
Hi Jasper,
I completely agree on the drill down that the - and + is the better notation.
The Carbon look and feel is for chevron use.
We'd listen for pros and cons if more users would bring their thoughts.
Best Regards,
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Svetlana Pestsova
IBM Planning Analytics Product Manager
Original Message:
Sent: Fri February 04, 2022 02:50 AM
From: Jesper Poulsen
Subject: The New Cube Viewer, trailing order, PAW 2.0.72
Hi Svetlana
I think that will be an overkill since users will adapt to whatever icon / indicator the tool has. But the chevron is less intuitive than + and - when it comes to drilling up/down (expand/collaps) a hierarchy.
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Jesper Poulsen
Original Message:
Sent: Thu February 03, 2022 05:01 PM
From: Svetlana Pestsova
Subject: The New Cube Viewer, trailing order, PAW 2.0.72
Asgeir, Jasper,
Perharps the ability to customize the cube viewer and set the user preferences for the node icon to use +/- or chevron might be a good ground.
Would it be somethig that would help you and your users to consume the cube data info?
Best Regards,
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Svetlana Pestsova
IBM Planning Analytics Product Manager
Original Message:
Sent: Thu February 03, 2022 03:54 AM
From: Jesper Poulsen
Subject: The New Cube Viewer, trailing order, PAW 2.0.72
Hi Svetlana
I agree with Asgeir. I think the difference is that a plus or minus does not indicate direction where as the chevron is an arrow pointing down giving a sense of direction and that is not very intuitive when you have expand above.
Also I suppose the classic view will be end dated at some point so it will only work as a temporary solution for the issue raised by Asgeir.
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Jesper Poulsen
Original Message:
Sent: Tue January 25, 2022 04:00 PM
From: Svetlana Pestsova
Subject: The New Cube Viewer, trailing order, PAW 2.0.72
Hi Asgeir,
This is a new cube viewer design where the Carbon components use this chevron to show the consolidated member.
You could still select the Classic view option in SC 72 and use the previous approach for cube viewer ans set editor.
Also note that in Classic set editor, the Show totals trailing option would have the consolidated member with the minus sign under the expandend children, same way the down arrow chevron does. The plus sign icon is being used to create a new object, so it was considered as an advantage to respect it for this approach.
Hope it helps,
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Svetlana Pestsova
IBM Planning Analytics Product Manager
Original Message:
Sent: Tue January 25, 2022 11:12 AM
From: Asgeir Thorgeirsson
Subject: The New Cube Viewer, trailing order, PAW 2.0.72
Instead of the + and - signs in front of an item, we now have signs pointing to the right when collapsed and down when expanded.
The expanded sign gets somewhat confusing when using the trailing order for a dimension because it points down when the child items are above the consolidated member.
Is it possible to have the expanded arrow pointing up for the trailing order?
The image below shows an example.
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Asgeir Thorgeirsson
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