😃
Same to me but I am also using a 13" MacBook Air, when I am on the road.
For daily work it would not be my choice no. 1 but when I am on the road it is OK.
You can also connect it with every Screen and Beamer and so on...
If you want it really big use Apple Vision Pro 😃
Original Message:
Sent: 10/26/2024 8:45:00 AM
From: Daniel Gross
Subject: RE: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
Well - 13" are not so much if you open RDi.
But to put that into relation - I'm way over 50yo and wearing glasses since some years - so my work environment is a large ultra wide curved display ...
Daniel
Original Message:
Sent: 10/26/2024 8:34:00 AM
From: jerry ven
Subject: RE: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
How about 13" screen for Apple Air M1 does green screen for coding in ibm i acs,rdi,vs code etc. fit well to do normal programming work there or not comfortable?(if anyone experienced any difficu6 or easiness)
Thanks
Original Message:
Sent: Sat October 26, 2024 08:08 AM
From: Markus Litters
Subject: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
Hi all,
of course Daniel is right.
If you don't need it mobile you should also look for the MacStudio which can be explanded to 192GB but you should wait a few days until the M4 Macs are announced.
Normally the older will be cheaper.
And as Daniel mentioned, you can use the Mac normally much longer and if you combine it with iPhone you will also save a lot of time which cost money as we all know 😉
Original Message:
Sent: 10/26/2024 7:10:00 AM
From: Daniel Gross
Subject: RE: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
Hi Jerry,
AFAIK you won't find that maxed out MacBook Pro M3max 128GB RAM configuration at Amazon. At the Apple Online Store it will cost between 4,500 and 5,000$ - I think the build this config only on demand.
An expandable Windows notebook will most probably be less expensive. And you can buy it now, with a smaller config and upgrade it later, when needed. But on the other side, it definitely won't last that long.
If you don't need the mobile option, the Mac mini is a very good start - it's the "bring-your-own-display-mouse-and-keyboard" Mac.
Regards,
Daniel
Original Message:
Sent: 10/26/2024 6:38:00 AM
From: jerry ven
Subject: RE: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
Any Amazon link to buy it online with 128 gb RAM m3 max.
Also in lesser price Windows laptop whose RAM could be expanded up to 128 gb ,which option will be better here?(any Amazon link for the same?)
Thanks...
Original Message:
Sent: Sat October 26, 2024 05:12 AM
From: Daniel Gross
Subject: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
One additional tip - if you configure a new MacBook or Mac mini (also a real good machine) try to think ahead.
Todays Apple Silicon Macs aren't expandable anymore - so you have to choose the right dimensions for SSD and RAM right from the start.
And - choose wisely - because those Apples tend to live long ... very long. My last iMac lived about 8 years, as my primary developer machine - using Xcode and more. My Mac mini today is already about 3 years old, and still so fast, that I don't have any need for any upgrade. But in both cases this was, because I had chosen a rather large configuration - especially RAM.
HTH
Daniel
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Daniel Gross
Original Message:
Sent: Sat October 26, 2024 04:41 AM
From: Markus Litters
Subject: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
Hi Jerry,
no – not at all.
You should use at absolute Minimum a Macbook with 24GB RAM and 512GB SSD.
Better is 32GB or 38GB (M3 Macbooks can have that amount) or more of course....
The Harddisk depends on what you want to save locally of course...
The processor can be a M1. M2 or M3 are faster of course but M1 is already very fast.
Next week everyone expects that Apple will announce the M4 Macbooks so you should wait a few days. Normally the older devices getting cheaper then.
If you want to run LLM Models locally you need at least 64GB RAM for the smaller Models. Normally you should use a Server for that.
For using IBM i classical stuff (ACS, RDi, VS Code with Code4i) a 16GB RAM System with 256GB Harddisk is quite good.
Hope that helps
Markus
Original Message:
Sent: 10/26/2024 4:31:00 AM
From: jerry ven
Subject: RE: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
So how about apple macbook m1 (8gb ram and 256 gb ssd) will it sufficient for all these tasks?
Original Message:
Sent: Sat October 26, 2024 03:41 AM
From: Markus Litters
Subject: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
Hi Jerry,
here is the answer very clear:
Mac is better for the mentioned topics – from my perspective and the perspective of my Development Team which is exactly doing what you listed.
If you use Windows for that you should use Windows Subsystem for Linux – Microsoft invented it (something like PASE within IBM i) to run real Linux "inside" of Windows and mix both.
BUT
If you use x86 / x64 Hardware, then you will have much more power consumption which leads to a much more working fan because of the head and your battery will not last as long as with ARM Hardware.
If you use ARM Hardware with Windows (Windows 11 for ARM like on the Snapdragon Copilot+ PC's) you will have much better performance and less power consumption but more problems with things like IBM ACS and RDi (as mentioned in the other responses).
Also x86 / x64 Windows Software (which is still the most used) will run not as fast because it will be emulated or it doesn't work at all on these Windows PC's.
So from my perspective if you are working in a "mixed scenario" with classical IBM i stuff and the actual things like AI related topics (Python, Node.js, Langchain and so on) you run best on Mac.
My MacBook Air has no fan at all.
My MacBook Pro has one but I heard it only 3 times in the past 3 years and that was not very long and not really loud.
On my Windows Notebook with Intel core i7 12th generation the fan is starting very loud when I boot the Notebook... .
My Tinnitus is really "happy" with that noise.
One of the most important arguments to me to use a Mac.
Original Message:
Sent: 10/26/2024 2:36:00 AM
From: jerry ven
Subject: RE: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
And for AI/ML and for over all coding ,programming related projects whichone is better Windows or Mac ?
Also for other factors like graphics,sound picture quality battery life and free software versions (upgrade facility),compatibility with open source related projects and other free softwares (which are available on Google for free download) whichone will be better here (overall) ?
Thanks..
Original Message:
Sent: Thu October 24, 2024 01:37 AM
From: Markus Litters
Subject: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
Hi Jerry,
- VS Code runs better on Mac than on Windows
- IBM ACS (Access Client Solutions) runs without any problems (at least the same) when you use OpenJDK 11 or OpenJDK 17
- RDi has some issues like the cursor problem I mentioned which should be fixed now. Another thing is that some Plug Ins like for example X-Analyze are only running on Windows. So if you use that, you should use Windows
So no – not everything is better on Windows.
Therefore Microsoft created the Windows Subsystem for Linux which runs Linux on Windows because also Microsoft knows that a lot of things run better on Unix based systems like Mac Os, Linux, etc..
So if you use IBM i a lot with PASE Products like Node.js, Python, git, bob, Postgre or other stuff, you run better with a Mac.
I hope that makes everything clear. If not you are very welcome to ask.
Original Message:
Sent: 10/24/2024 1:23:00 AM
From: jerry ven
Subject: RE: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
So overall its risky to run RDi and VS Code and Ms Access on Apple's macbooks and other softwares which usually runs without any issues on windows ?
As on Windows I think mostly all software runs well without any issues or additional set up etc.
Original Message:
Sent: 10/23/2024 2:25:00 AM
From: Markus Litters
Subject: RE: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
Hi Richard,
as already mentioned RDi works with the mentioned issues on Mac.
9.8 can be installed without any problems.
9.6 need to be installed with special instructions that can be found on the IBM pages (need to look for them if you need them).
Windows 11 for ARM works also with Parallels and with IBM ACS but the used Java version is very important 😃
You need to use the OpenJdk Java 11 or 17. These work. Others won't.
Same on the Mac.
I tested Oracle Java 17 – had a lot of problems (keyboard won't work for example – not good in 5250 😉 ).
With OpenJDK 17 everything works fine with ACS.
Because RDi has it's own Java included it doesn't matter which version you install but it also works on Windows for ARM (no Matter on which machine – native or Parallels). BUT – RDi 9.8.
Hope that helps.
Kind regards
Markus
Original Message:
Sent: 10/23/2024 12:23:00 AM
From: Richard Schoen
Subject: RE: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
The Mac works great for all the items you mentioned.......Except:
I don't know RDi status on the Mac. I couldn't get RDi 9.6 to work on my Mac M1.
I also couldn't get RDi it to work in Windows 11 ARM64 on Mac via Parallels, but maybe that has been fixed.
Microsoft Access will probably work in Windows 11 ARM64 on Parallels but I haven't tested it. I don't think there's a native Mac equivalent to access unless you install something like LibreOffice perhaps.
I also have a Windows 11 ARM64 Snapdragon PC, but I can't get RDi to work there either
If you use RDi and Access a lot (Definitely an interesting combination), then you may need to consider sticking with an Intel based Windows 11 laptop or desktop.
It all depends how far out of your comfort zone you're ready to step.......
Another option is use RDP to your Windows machine while getting used to the Mac. Then life still feels Windowy most of the time.
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Richard Schoen
Owner/President
MobiGoGo LLC
Minneapolis MN
612-315-1745
Original Message:
Sent: Tue October 22, 2024 05:43 AM
From: jerry ven
Subject: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
So to avoid any risk is it safer to be on Windows based laptop only to run all these software ?
Original Message:
Sent: 10/22/2024 3:32:00 AM
From: Markus Litters
Subject: RE: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
Hi Jerry,
I am not sure if these are some follow up questions or the old – so to be sure everything is clear:
2 contradictory points here :
1) Windows is Microsoft's product
2) VS Code cannot be supported on apple's laptop compared to Windows laptop?
3) What about DB2 for i?
- Yes – Windows is Microsofts product
- VS Code runs perfectly on Apple Mac OS – from my perspective it runs better on Mac OS and Linux than on Windows because it is an Electron based App which means it is a Javascript App that is "converted" into a Desktop App (by the way – Micrsoft Office works the same way these days)
- DB2 for i runs on IBM I OS on the IBM POWER Server.
To access it you can either use the IBM ACS which runs on Java and so it also works on Apple Mac.
You can also use VS Code with the Code4i Add On which also works on Apple Mac.
As mentioned in my other response you can also use the RDi but it has some issues on Apple Mac that are not appearing on Windows (at least in my team where we are 5 developers using RDi on Windows and 8 developers using RDi on Mac).
These issues are annoying but not a show stopper. So you use and work with it on Mac.
I hope that these issues are fixed soon. I am in contact with Steve Ferrell from Fortra who is the Principal Software Engineer Lead RDi.
The more developers use Apple Mac the sooner such things are fixed 😉
Hope that makes everything more clear.
Kind regards
Markus
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Original Message:
Sent: 10/22/2024 3:02:00 AM
From: jerry ven
Subject: RE: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
2 contradictory points here :
1) Windows is Microsoft's product
2) VS Code cannot be supported on apple's laptop compared to Windows laptop?
3) What about DB2 for i?
Original Message:
Sent: 10/15/2024 3:07:00 AM
From: Markus Litters
Subject: RE: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
Hi Jerry,
as one of the others already said with IBM ACS you need to use OpenJDK 11 or OpenJDK 17 and it works fine on Mac.
With RDi there are some issues which are really strange and known. We hope they will be fixed soon.
For example the cursor sometimes will be shown one column to the right of it's real position.
This is sometimes frustrating.
With VS Code you won't have any issues because VS Code is not a Windows product as one mentioned.
It is an Electron App. That means it is written in Javascript and published with the Electron Framework which runs on Linux, Mac and Windows.
Windows is the worst platform for this so with VS Code you will be better on Mac and Linux 😉
We are just working on several add ons for Code4i so VS Code and Code4i will be better than RDi...
Mochasoft I didn't use yet so I can't tell you if it works and if yes how.
If you use the IBM I PASE environment you are much better on the Road with a Mac than with Windows because Mac OS is also Unix based so you can directly connect via ssh, sftp and so on and have some kind of "native" feeling.
With Windows you should use the Windows Subsystem for Linux and a installed Linux distribution like Ubuntu to have the same effect.
Kind regards
Markus
Original Message:
Sent: 10/14/2024 12:20:00 AM
From: jerry ven
Subject: Regarding IBM I and Apple's laptop
Hi,
Does all Ibm i related tools like RDi, ACS, VS Code, mochasoft and rest other connection (jdbc, odbc, ms access etc.) Work well on Apple's laptop like they work on Windows machine?
Is it safe to buy Apple's laptop for all Ibm i related tasks like on Windows based laptops?