Hi,

This might just be me caring a bit too much for details but I wonder if it is possible to hide the black widget frames which are shown in the PAW new experience when clicking on a widget, e.g. a crosstab. I agree that the expand functionality which comes with it (right upper corner) can be useful, e.g. for visualizations. However in certain books it just does not look nice to have the black frame appear whenever you click on a widget and in some cases the black line even strikes through pieces of text or other objects in the book as shown in the screenshot. I am aware that I could just move the crosstab further down but in most cases you want to save as much space as possible in the book and the widget frame adds quite some "dead space" on top the widgets. 

​

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Mario Hasler
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#PlanningAnalyticswithWatson

Hi Mario,

I would also like to see a way of making those hidden.

I find them quite annoying and in my opinion is another small thing that adds up to a negative user experience.

regards,

Mark

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Mark Wragg
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Original Message:
Sent: Tue March 02, 2021 06:35 AM
From: Mario Hasler
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi,

This might just be me caring a bit too much for details but I wonder if it is possible to hide the black widget frames which are shown in the PAW new experience when clicking on a widget, e.g. a crosstab. I agree that the expand functionality which comes with it (right upper corner) can be useful, e.g. for visualizations. However in certain books it just does not look nice to have the black frame appear whenever you click on a widget and in some cases the black line even strikes through pieces of text or other objects in the book as shown in the screenshot. I am aware that I could just move the crosstab further down but in most cases you want to save as much space as possible in the book and the widget frame adds quite some "dead space" on top the widgets. 

In another book I have three crosstabs from different cubes but I want it to look as one crosstab. In this case the black frames are also bothering the users a bit because they interfere with the rows above as you can see in the screenshot. I am aware that I could move the data with rules to just one cube and create one crosstab but I think in general the black frame is too dominant and it would be great if it could be hidden when needed.

It's not a huge problem but would be great to hear if there is a way to hide it and if not maybe someone from the IBM team can give their perspective on this. 

Thanks and best regards,
Mario

​

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Mario Hasler
------------------------------

#PlanningAnalyticswithWatson

Hi Mario,

I agree that the new border display on click is not an improvement.
I had couple of negative remarks from customers who found that strange.
Especially that this is not only displayed for cube viewer tables, but for all objects e.g. text objects used for titles.

Best regards,
Maciej

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Maciej Majer
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Original Message:
Sent: Tue March 02, 2021 06:35 AM
From: Mario Hasler
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi,

This might just be me caring a bit too much for details but I wonder if it is possible to hide the black widget frames which are shown in the PAW new experience when clicking on a widget, e.g. a crosstab. I agree that the expand functionality which comes with it (right upper corner) can be useful, e.g. for visualizations. However in certain books it just does not look nice to have the black frame appear whenever you click on a widget and in some cases the black line even strikes through pieces of text or other objects in the book as shown in the screenshot. I am aware that I could just move the crosstab further down but in most cases you want to save as much space as possible in the book and the widget frame adds quite some "dead space" on top the widgets. 

In another book I have three crosstabs from different cubes but I want it to look as one crosstab. In this case the black frames are also bothering the users a bit because they interfere with the rows above as you can see in the screenshot. I am aware that I could move the data with rules to just one cube and create one crosstab but I think in general the black frame is too dominant and it would be great if it could be hidden when needed.

It's not a huge problem but would be great to hear if there is a way to hide it and if not maybe someone from the IBM team can give their perspective on this. 

Thanks and best regards,
Mario

​

------------------------------
Mario Hasler
------------------------------

#PlanningAnalyticswithWatson

Good shout Mario ... I'd slightly disagree with it not being a huge problem though.
For any real dashboard designer - things like this 'enhancement' are a massive problem to the aesthetic, ergonomics and overall design of any dashboard - especially when creating them for senior stakeholders. Basically - you have a beautifully crafted dashboard - everything clean and laid out so that information is highlighted in the right way .. your head of function clicks on the dashboard element and the reaction is instantly "well .. that's just as ugly as if a hippo had mated with a crocodile!".

Ok - maybe a slight exaggeration - but what it demonstrates to me (and much like SO many other elements of how the PAW UI and dash-boarding has been programmed) is that those making these changes have never ONCE worked as an MI specialist or designer, that there's obviously no consultation with people that can advise the actual requirements of designers.

So IBM - here's how to fix the janky application of the so called enhancements and simply missed opportunities:-
• turn off the black border in live view - and make the expander a contextual option with a right click (this should have been obvious)
• Apply controls to EVERY element that toggles weather the scroll bars appear when PA can't handle zoom properly on relative views
• in fact - apply a toggle to the window whether to show scroll bars for the screen
• fix the broken colour controls
• fix the broken font controls
• urgently fix ALL of the regional settings
I could go on....

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David Ramos
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Original Message:
Sent: Tue March 02, 2021 06:35 AM
From: Mario Hasler
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi,

This might just be me caring a bit too much for details but I wonder if it is possible to hide the black widget frames which are shown in the PAW new experience when clicking on a widget, e.g. a crosstab. I agree that the expand functionality which comes with it (right upper corner) can be useful, e.g. for visualizations. However in certain books it just does not look nice to have the black frame appear whenever you click on a widget and in some cases the black line even strikes through pieces of text or other objects in the book as shown in the screenshot. I am aware that I could just move the crosstab further down but in most cases you want to save as much space as possible in the book and the widget frame adds quite some "dead space" on top the widgets. 

In another book I have three crosstabs from different cubes but I want it to look as one crosstab. In this case the black frames are also bothering the users a bit because they interfere with the rows above as you can see in the screenshot. I am aware that I could move the data with rules to just one cube and create one crosstab but I think in general the black frame is too dominant and it would be great if it could be hidden when needed.

It's not a huge problem but would be great to hear if there is a way to hide it and if not maybe someone from the IBM team can give their perspective on this. 

Thanks and best regards,
Mario

​

------------------------------
Mario Hasler
------------------------------

#PlanningAnalyticswithWatson

Hi David,

Thanks for your comment. I understand your frustration. There have been a lot of improvements when it comes to the new experience but I agree that there are still quite some issues to be solved. 

For example
- The column width issue posted by Mark Wragg some days ago (link)
- The lack of formatting capabilities when it comes to crosstabs. I heard this will be addressed later this year
- Percentage formatting in visualizations, both axis and data values. I have an open support case regarding this and got the info that it is targeted for Q2.
- Your point "PA can't handle zoom properly on relative views". I created a support case for this in September last year, see this APAR

Let's hope these issues will soon be addressed. The "Action Button Advancements" and "Synchronization Enhancements" in the Roadmap sound promising.

Best regards,
Mario 

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Mario Hasler
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Original Message:
Sent: Thu March 04, 2021 05:06 AM
From: David Ramos
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Good shout Mario ... I'd slightly disagree with it not being a huge problem though.
For any real dashboard designer - things like this 'enhancement' are a massive problem to the aesthetic, ergonomics and overall design of any dashboard - especially when creating them for senior stakeholders. Basically - you have a beautifully crafted dashboard - everything clean and laid out so that information is highlighted in the right way .. your head of function clicks on the dashboard element and the reaction is instantly "well .. that's just as ugly as if a hippo had mated with a crocodile!".

Ok - maybe a slight exaggeration - but what it demonstrates to me (and much like SO many other elements of how the PAW UI and dash-boarding has been programmed) is that those making these changes have never ONCE worked as an MI specialist or designer, that there's obviously no consultation with people that can advise the actual requirements of designers.

So IBM - here's how to fix the janky application of the so called enhancements and simply missed opportunities:-
• turn off the black border in live view - and make the expander a contextual option with a right click (this should have been obvious)
• Apply controls to EVERY element that toggles weather the scroll bars appear when PA can't handle zoom properly on relative views
• in fact - apply a toggle to the window whether to show scroll bars for the screen
• fix the broken colour controls
• fix the broken font controls
• urgently fix ALL of the regional settings
I could go on....

------------------------------
David Ramos

Original Message:
Sent: Tue March 02, 2021 06:35 AM
From: Mario Hasler
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi,

This might just be me caring a bit too much for details but I wonder if it is possible to hide the black widget frames which are shown in the PAW new experience when clicking on a widget, e.g. a crosstab. I agree that the expand functionality which comes with it (right upper corner) can be useful, e.g. for visualizations. However in certain books it just does not look nice to have the black frame appear whenever you click on a widget and in some cases the black line even strikes through pieces of text or other objects in the book as shown in the screenshot. I am aware that I could just move the crosstab further down but in most cases you want to save as much space as possible in the book and the widget frame adds quite some "dead space" on top the widgets. 

In another book I have three crosstabs from different cubes but I want it to look as one crosstab. In this case the black frames are also bothering the users a bit because they interfere with the rows above as you can see in the screenshot. I am aware that I could move the data with rules to just one cube and create one crosstab but I think in general the black frame is too dominant and it would be great if it could be hidden when needed.

It's not a huge problem but would be great to hear if there is a way to hide it and if not maybe someone from the IBM team can give their perspective on this. 

Thanks and best regards,
Mario

​

------------------------------
Mario Hasler
------------------------------

#PlanningAnalyticswithWatson

Hi All,

The Planning Analytics team is working on making the black border optional when the widget is selected.  This would only apply while the book is not in edit mode.  It will be disabled by default for some widgets (e.g shape and action button) and have an option to disable it on the cube viewer.  Currently, the black border is required if you want to be able to maximize the cube viewer, it's an option at the top right.   I suspect we will move the maximize button at some point so the black border is not required.  

Should happen sometime in Q2 2021.

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Stuart King
IBM Planning Analytics Offering Manager
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: Tue March 02, 2021 06:35 AM
From: Mario Hasler
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi,

This might just be me caring a bit too much for details but I wonder if it is possible to hide the black widget frames which are shown in the PAW new experience when clicking on a widget, e.g. a crosstab. I agree that the expand functionality which comes with it (right upper corner) can be useful, e.g. for visualizations. However in certain books it just does not look nice to have the black frame appear whenever you click on a widget and in some cases the black line even strikes through pieces of text or other objects in the book as shown in the screenshot. I am aware that I could just move the crosstab further down but in most cases you want to save as much space as possible in the book and the widget frame adds quite some "dead space" on top the widgets. 

In another book I have three crosstabs from different cubes but I want it to look as one crosstab. In this case the black frames are also bothering the users a bit because they interfere with the rows above as you can see in the screenshot. I am aware that I could move the data with rules to just one cube and create one crosstab but I think in general the black frame is too dominant and it would be great if it could be hidden when needed.

It's not a huge problem but would be great to hear if there is a way to hide it and if not maybe someone from the IBM team can give their perspective on this. 

Thanks and best regards,
Mario

​

------------------------------
Mario Hasler
------------------------------

#PlanningAnalyticswithWatson

Hi Stuart, 

Thank you for your answer. Great to hear that the team is working on this with Q2 as a target.

Best regards,
Mario

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Mario Hasler
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: Thu March 04, 2021 08:54 AM
From: STUART KING
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi All,

The Planning Analytics team is working on making the black border optional when the widget is selected.  This would only apply while the book is not in edit mode.  It will be disabled by default for some widgets (e.g shape and action button) and have an option to disable it on the cube viewer.  Currently, the black border is required if you want to be able to maximize the cube viewer, it's an option at the top right.   I suspect we will move the maximize button at some point so the black border is not required.  

Should happen sometime in Q2 2021.

------------------------------
Stuart King
IBM Planning Analytics Offering Manager

Original Message:
Sent: Tue March 02, 2021 06:35 AM
From: Mario Hasler
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi,

This might just be me caring a bit too much for details but I wonder if it is possible to hide the black widget frames which are shown in the PAW new experience when clicking on a widget, e.g. a crosstab. I agree that the expand functionality which comes with it (right upper corner) can be useful, e.g. for visualizations. However in certain books it just does not look nice to have the black frame appear whenever you click on a widget and in some cases the black line even strikes through pieces of text or other objects in the book as shown in the screenshot. I am aware that I could just move the crosstab further down but in most cases you want to save as much space as possible in the book and the widget frame adds quite some "dead space" on top the widgets. 

In another book I have three crosstabs from different cubes but I want it to look as one crosstab. In this case the black frames are also bothering the users a bit because they interfere with the rows above as you can see in the screenshot. I am aware that I could move the data with rules to just one cube and create one crosstab but I think in general the black frame is too dominant and it would be great if it could be hidden when needed.

It's not a huge problem but would be great to hear if there is a way to hide it and if not maybe someone from the IBM team can give their perspective on this. 

Thanks and best regards,
Mario

​

------------------------------
Mario Hasler
------------------------------

#PlanningAnalyticswithWatson

thanks for the info here Stuart .. it is good to see IBM addressing some key issues and gaps in the software.

I'm currently trying to 'sell the virtues' of PA Workspace to a community of people historically 'stuck' in excel, so anything that makes the program look cleaner, slicker and more consistent is great.

David​

------------------------------
David Ramos
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: Thu March 04, 2021 08:54 AM
From: STUART KING
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi All,

The Planning Analytics team is working on making the black border optional when the widget is selected.  This would only apply while the book is not in edit mode.  It will be disabled by default for some widgets (e.g shape and action button) and have an option to disable it on the cube viewer.  Currently, the black border is required if you want to be able to maximize the cube viewer, it's an option at the top right.   I suspect we will move the maximize button at some point so the black border is not required.  

Should happen sometime in Q2 2021.

------------------------------
Stuart King
IBM Planning Analytics Offering Manager

Original Message:
Sent: Tue March 02, 2021 06:35 AM
From: Mario Hasler
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi,

This might just be me caring a bit too much for details but I wonder if it is possible to hide the black widget frames which are shown in the PAW new experience when clicking on a widget, e.g. a crosstab. I agree that the expand functionality which comes with it (right upper corner) can be useful, e.g. for visualizations. However in certain books it just does not look nice to have the black frame appear whenever you click on a widget and in some cases the black line even strikes through pieces of text or other objects in the book as shown in the screenshot. I am aware that I could just move the crosstab further down but in most cases you want to save as much space as possible in the book and the widget frame adds quite some "dead space" on top the widgets. 

In another book I have three crosstabs from different cubes but I want it to look as one crosstab. In this case the black frames are also bothering the users a bit because they interfere with the rows above as you can see in the screenshot. I am aware that I could move the data with rules to just one cube and create one crosstab but I think in general the black frame is too dominant and it would be great if it could be hidden when needed.

It's not a huge problem but would be great to hear if there is a way to hide it and if not maybe someone from the IBM team can give their perspective on this. 

Thanks and best regards,
Mario

​

------------------------------
Mario Hasler
------------------------------

#PlanningAnalyticswithWatson

Hi, @STUART KING.

I'd like to ask you if you have any update regarding making the black border​ to maximise widgets optional. Q2 2021 is almost gone and this issue doesn't seem to be addressed so far.

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Felipe Fonseca
FOPM Consultant
Cubewise
Hilversum
+31 3 5646 2820
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: Thu March 04, 2021 08:54 AM
From: STUART KING
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi All,

The Planning Analytics team is working on making the black border optional when the widget is selected.  This would only apply while the book is not in edit mode.  It will be disabled by default for some widgets (e.g shape and action button) and have an option to disable it on the cube viewer.  Currently, the black border is required if you want to be able to maximize the cube viewer, it's an option at the top right.   I suspect we will move the maximize button at some point so the black border is not required.  

Should happen sometime in Q2 2021.

------------------------------
Stuart King
IBM Planning Analytics Offering Manager

Original Message:
Sent: Tue March 02, 2021 06:35 AM
From: Mario Hasler
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi,

This might just be me caring a bit too much for details but I wonder if it is possible to hide the black widget frames which are shown in the PAW new experience when clicking on a widget, e.g. a crosstab. I agree that the expand functionality which comes with it (right upper corner) can be useful, e.g. for visualizations. However in certain books it just does not look nice to have the black frame appear whenever you click on a widget and in some cases the black line even strikes through pieces of text or other objects in the book as shown in the screenshot. I am aware that I could just move the crosstab further down but in most cases you want to save as much space as possible in the book and the widget frame adds quite some "dead space" on top the widgets. 

In another book I have three crosstabs from different cubes but I want it to look as one crosstab. In this case the black frames are also bothering the users a bit because they interfere with the rows above as you can see in the screenshot. I am aware that I could move the data with rules to just one cube and create one crosstab but I think in general the black frame is too dominant and it would be great if it could be hidden when needed.

It's not a huge problem but would be great to hear if there is a way to hide it and if not maybe someone from the IBM team can give their perspective on this. 

Thanks and best regards,
Mario

​

------------------------------
Mario Hasler
------------------------------

#PlanningAnalyticswithWatson

Hi Felipe,

This won't be addressed in the next few releases of Planning Analytics Workspace.  It's still high on our list of priorities.  




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Stuart King
IBM Planning Analytics Offering Manager
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 22, 2021 10:32 AM
From: Felipe Fonseca
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi, @STUART KING.

I'd like to ask you if you have any update regarding making the black border​ to maximise widgets optional. Q2 2021 is almost gone and this issue doesn't seem to be addressed so far.

------------------------------
Felipe Fonseca
FOPM Consultant
Cubewise
Hilversum
+31 3 5646 2820

Original Message:
Sent: Thu March 04, 2021 08:54 AM
From: STUART KING
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi All,

The Planning Analytics team is working on making the black border optional when the widget is selected.  This would only apply while the book is not in edit mode.  It will be disabled by default for some widgets (e.g shape and action button) and have an option to disable it on the cube viewer.  Currently, the black border is required if you want to be able to maximize the cube viewer, it's an option at the top right.   I suspect we will move the maximize button at some point so the black border is not required.  

Should happen sometime in Q2 2021.

------------------------------
Stuart King
IBM Planning Analytics Offering Manager

Original Message:
Sent: Tue March 02, 2021 06:35 AM
From: Mario Hasler
Subject: PAW new experience - Is it possible to hide the black widget frames

Hi,

This might just be me caring a bit too much for details but I wonder if it is possible to hide the black widget frames which are shown in the PAW new experience when clicking on a widget, e.g. a crosstab. I agree that the expand functionality which comes with it (right upper corner) can be useful, e.g. for visualizations. However in certain books it just does not look nice to have the black frame appear whenever you click on a widget and in some cases the black line even strikes through pieces of text or other objects in the book as shown in the screenshot. I am aware that I could just move the crosstab further down but in most cases you want to save as much space as possible in the book and the widget frame adds quite some "dead space" on top the widgets. 

In another book I have three crosstabs from different cubes but I want it to look as one crosstab. In this case the black frames are also bothering the users a bit because they interfere with the rows above as you can see in the screenshot. I am aware that I could move the data with rules to just one cube and create one crosstab but I think in general the black frame is too dominant and it would be great if it could be hidden when needed.

It's not a huge problem but would be great to hear if there is a way to hide it and if not maybe someone from the IBM team can give their perspective on this. 

Thanks and best regards,
Mario

​

------------------------------
Mario Hasler
------------------------------

#PlanningAnalyticswithWatson