Planning Analytics

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------

Hi Ryan,

I understand the confusion. TM1 Applications, are web based workflows that where created using TM1 Performance Modeler. In Architect/Perspectives, there where also a folder structure called "Application" which is a different feature. Basically just a folder structure. 

TM1 Applications will be completely gone. A folder structure can still be created for uploading Excel reports. In PAW/PAfE the entry is called "Websheets" and not Applications. That will still be availible.

Note that the folders can only be used for websheets, where Architect/Perspectives could have references to views and processes as well.

So what you have in PAW/PAfE today, will still be there on v2.1.x

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 17, 2024 04:28 PM
From: Ryan Sinclair
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------

Hi Ryan,

I understand the confusion. TM1 Applications, are web based workflows that where created using TM1 Performance Modeler. In Architect/Perspectives, there where also a folder structure called "Application" which is a different feature. Basically just a folder structure. 

TM1 Applications will be completely gone. A folder structure can still be created for uploading Excel reports. In PAW/PAfE the entry is called "Websheets" and not Applications. That will still be availible.

Note that the folders can only be used for websheets, where Architect/Perspectives could have references to views and processes as well.

So what you have in PAW/PAfE today, will still be there on v2.1.x

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 17, 2024 04:28 PM
From: Ryan Sinclair
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------

Hi Emil,

I've just had confirmation from IBM support that there is no intention to shutdown "Application Web", we will however loose the ability to administrate the models through Performance Modeller.

So whilst not be able to "deploy" new models, we will still be able to change our workflow subsets and responsibility etc.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 02:49 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Ryan,

I understand the confusion. TM1 Applications, are web based workflows that where created using TM1 Performance Modeler. In Architect/Perspectives, there where also a folder structure called "Application" which is a different feature. Basically just a folder structure. 

TM1 Applications will be completely gone. A folder structure can still be created for uploading Excel reports. In PAW/PAfE the entry is called "Websheets" and not Applications. That will still be availible.

Note that the folders can only be used for websheets, where Architect/Perspectives could have references to views and processes as well.

So what you have in PAW/PAfE today, will still be there on v2.1.x

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 17, 2024 04:28 PM
From: Ryan Sinclair
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------

Hi Julian

Unfortunately, there must have been some misunderstanding between you and IBM Support. 

Planning Analytics Local 2.1 does not included support for rich tier components, including TM1 applications, which is stated in the depriciation note linked above.

Could your ticket be regarding the removal of access to the rich tier clients via rdp on PA on Cloud, and not 2.1 local? 

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 01:46 PM
From: Julian Sedgewick
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Emil,

I've just had confirmation from IBM support that there is no intention to shutdown "Application Web", we will however loose the ability to administrate the models through Performance Modeller.

So whilst not be able to "deploy" new models, we will still be able to change our workflow subsets and responsibility etc.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 02:49 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Ryan,

I understand the confusion. TM1 Applications, are web based workflows that where created using TM1 Performance Modeler. In Architect/Perspectives, there where also a folder structure called "Application" which is a different feature. Basically just a folder structure. 

TM1 Applications will be completely gone. A folder structure can still be created for uploading Excel reports. In PAW/PAfE the entry is called "Websheets" and not Applications. That will still be availible.

Note that the folders can only be used for websheets, where Architect/Perspectives could have references to views and processes as well.

So what you have in PAW/PAfE today, will still be there on v2.1.x

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 17, 2024 04:28 PM
From: Ryan Sinclair
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------

Hi Emil,

Thank you for your quick reply, as you can imagine its causing quite a panic insofar as a non rich tier service is being withdrawn without anything to replace it at the moment.   

We only use cloud.

I think what may be causing the confusion is that the pmpsvc service does not run in the rich tier but the deployment method Performance Modeler does.

For the sake of clarity, here is the last entry from IBM on ticket TS016115912:

"There is no intention to remove the Application Web. Please note that with the removal of Performance Modeler, there will be no possibility of making changes to any application if such need arise."

Applications and Plans is the designated replacement for TM1 Applications. However, there won't be a direct migration path from the existing product. The replacement will be implemented within the context of a new product offering.

In light of what has been said I have asked for further information.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Wed June 19, 2024 01:16 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Julian

Unfortunately, there must have been some misunderstanding between you and IBM Support. 

Planning Analytics Local 2.1 does not included support for rich tier components, including TM1 applications, which is stated in the depriciation note linked above.

Could your ticket be regarding the removal of access to the rich tier clients via rdp on PA on Cloud, and not 2.1 local? 

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 01:46 PM
From: Julian Sedgewick
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Emil,

I've just had confirmation from IBM support that there is no intention to shutdown "Application Web", we will however loose the ability to administrate the models through Performance Modeller.

So whilst not be able to "deploy" new models, we will still be able to change our workflow subsets and responsibility etc.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 02:49 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Ryan,

I understand the confusion. TM1 Applications, are web based workflows that where created using TM1 Performance Modeler. In Architect/Perspectives, there where also a folder structure called "Application" which is a different feature. Basically just a folder structure. 

TM1 Applications will be completely gone. A folder structure can still be created for uploading Excel reports. In PAW/PAfE the entry is called "Websheets" and not Applications. That will still be availible.

Note that the folders can only be used for websheets, where Architect/Perspectives could have references to views and processes as well.

So what you have in PAW/PAfE today, will still be there on v2.1.x

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 17, 2024 04:28 PM
From: Ryan Sinclair
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------

Hi Julian,

That makes sense. PA on Cloud is deployed on 2.0.x, and the depreciation is happening in version 2.1.x. I'm not sure 2.1.x is even available for cloud deployments yet.

Hi Emil,

Thank you for your quick reply, as you can imagine its causing quite a panic insofar as a non rich tier service is being withdrawn without anything to replace it at the moment.   

We only use cloud.

I think what may be causing the confusion is that the pmpsvc service does not run in the rich tier but the deployment method Performance Modeler does.

For the sake of clarity, here is the last entry from IBM on ticket TS016115912:

"There is no intention to remove the Application Web. Please note that with the removal of Performance Modeler, there will be no possibility of making changes to any application if such need arise."

Applications and Plans is the designated replacement for TM1 Applications. However, there won't be a direct migration path from the existing product. The replacement will be implemented within the context of a new product offering.

In light of what has been said I have asked for further information.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Wed June 19, 2024 01:16 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Julian

Unfortunately, there must have been some misunderstanding between you and IBM Support. 

Planning Analytics Local 2.1 does not included support for rich tier components, including TM1 applications, which is stated in the depriciation note linked above.

Could your ticket be regarding the removal of access to the rich tier clients via rdp on PA on Cloud, and not 2.1 local? 

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 01:46 PM
From: Julian Sedgewick
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Emil,

I've just had confirmation from IBM support that there is no intention to shutdown "Application Web", we will however loose the ability to administrate the models through Performance Modeller.

So whilst not be able to "deploy" new models, we will still be able to change our workflow subsets and responsibility etc.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 02:49 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Ryan,

I understand the confusion. TM1 Applications, are web based workflows that where created using TM1 Performance Modeler. In Architect/Perspectives, there where also a folder structure called "Application" which is a different feature. Basically just a folder structure. 

TM1 Applications will be completely gone. A folder structure can still be created for uploading Excel reports. In PAW/PAfE the entry is called "Websheets" and not Applications. That will still be availible.

Note that the folders can only be used for websheets, where Architect/Perspectives could have references to views and processes as well.

So what you have in PAW/PAfE today, will still be there on v2.1.x

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 17, 2024 04:28 PM
From: Ryan Sinclair
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------

Hi All,

Planning Analytics on Cloud really is not Planning Analytics 2.0.9 or 2.1.  It is it's own product with it's own support lifecycle.  The support lifecycle of Planning Analytics Local releases does not impact what we support in our SaaS offering.

That being said, our strategy on-premises and in our SaaS offerings is to move workflow capabilities into Planning Analytics Workspace (PAW).  There are many reasons why we are moving workflow capabilities into PAW.  For example, PAW is more scalable than TM1 Applications (pmpsvc).  PAW also supports non-admin users creating and managing workflows.  In TM1 Applications only the Admin in the TM1 database can create and manage a workflow (application).

It's important to understand that when the rich tier is removed from Planning Analytics on Cloud environments that applications deployed in TM1 Applications (the pmpsvc web service) can no longer be updated.  Although the TM1 Applications (pmpsvc service) may still exist and be accessible, it will be removed on the next update to the web tier system.  The web tier system (system with TM1Web and TM1 Applications) is updated at the same time that the TM1 database is updated.  Customers that are requesting an update to either TM1 Server or TM1Web will be reminded that TM1 Applications will be removed as part of the update.  

Julian, if you are still using TM1 Applications (pmpsvc) on Planning Analytics on Cloud please reach out to me directly (stuart.king@ca.ibm.com).  We should determine if you can move your existing workflows to the Plans feature in PAW.  There are a number of important very near term enhancements coming to Plans in PAW that will be familiar to users of TM1 Applications.

Note that the rich tier removal does not impact TM1Web and you will continue to see the 'Applications' folder in TM1Web with all of your Websheets.  

Hi Julian,

That makes sense. PA on Cloud is deployed on 2.0.x, and the depreciation is happening in version 2.1.x. I'm not sure 2.1.x is even available for cloud deployments yet.

Hi Emil,

Thank you for your quick reply, as you can imagine its causing quite a panic insofar as a non rich tier service is being withdrawn without anything to replace it at the moment.   

We only use cloud.

I think what may be causing the confusion is that the pmpsvc service does not run in the rich tier but the deployment method Performance Modeler does.

For the sake of clarity, here is the last entry from IBM on ticket TS016115912:

"There is no intention to remove the Application Web. Please note that with the removal of Performance Modeler, there will be no possibility of making changes to any application if such need arise."

Applications and Plans is the designated replacement for TM1 Applications. However, there won't be a direct migration path from the existing product. The replacement will be implemented within the context of a new product offering.

In light of what has been said I have asked for further information.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Wed June 19, 2024 01:16 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Julian

Unfortunately, there must have been some misunderstanding between you and IBM Support. 

Planning Analytics Local 2.1 does not included support for rich tier components, including TM1 applications, which is stated in the depriciation note linked above.

Could your ticket be regarding the removal of access to the rich tier clients via rdp on PA on Cloud, and not 2.1 local? 

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 01:46 PM
From: Julian Sedgewick
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Emil,

I've just had confirmation from IBM support that there is no intention to shutdown "Application Web", we will however loose the ability to administrate the models through Performance Modeller.

So whilst not be able to "deploy" new models, we will still be able to change our workflow subsets and responsibility etc.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 02:49 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Ryan,

I understand the confusion. TM1 Applications, are web based workflows that where created using TM1 Performance Modeler. In Architect/Perspectives, there where also a folder structure called "Application" which is a different feature. Basically just a folder structure. 

TM1 Applications will be completely gone. A folder structure can still be created for uploading Excel reports. In PAW/PAfE the entry is called "Websheets" and not Applications. That will still be availible.

Note that the folders can only be used for websheets, where Architect/Perspectives could have references to views and processes as well.

So what you have in PAW/PAfE today, will still be there on v2.1.x

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 17, 2024 04:28 PM
From: Ryan Sinclair
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------

Hi All,

Planning Analytics on Cloud really is not Planning Analytics 2.0.9 or 2.1.  It is it's own product with it's own support lifecycle.  The support lifecycle of Planning Analytics Local releases does not impact what we support in our SaaS offering.

That being said, our strategy on-premises and in our SaaS offerings is to move workflow capabilities into Planning Analytics Workspace (PAW).  There are many reasons why we are moving workflow capabilities into PAW.  For example, PAW is more scalable than TM1 Applications (pmpsvc).  PAW also supports non-admin users creating and managing workflows.  In TM1 Applications only the Admin in the TM1 database can create and manage a workflow (application).

It's important to understand that when the rich tier is removed from Planning Analytics on Cloud environments that applications deployed in TM1 Applications (the pmpsvc web service) can no longer be updated.  Although the TM1 Applications (pmpsvc service) may still exist and be accessible, it will be removed on the next update to the web tier system.  The web tier system (system with TM1Web and TM1 Applications) is updated at the same time that the TM1 database is updated.  Customers that are requesting an update to either TM1 Server or TM1Web will be reminded that TM1 Applications will be removed as part of the update.  

Julian, if you are still using TM1 Applications (pmpsvc) on Planning Analytics on Cloud please reach out to me directly (stuart.king@ca.ibm.com).  We should determine if you can move your existing workflows to the Plans feature in PAW.  There are a number of important very near term enhancements coming to Plans in PAW that will be familiar to users of TM1 Applications.

Note that the rich tier removal does not impact TM1Web and you will continue to see the 'Applications' folder in TM1Web with all of your Websheets.  

Hi Julian,

That makes sense. PA on Cloud is deployed on 2.0.x, and the depreciation is happening in version 2.1.x. I'm not sure 2.1.x is even available for cloud deployments yet.

Hi Emil,

Thank you for your quick reply, as you can imagine its causing quite a panic insofar as a non rich tier service is being withdrawn without anything to replace it at the moment.   

We only use cloud.

I think what may be causing the confusion is that the pmpsvc service does not run in the rich tier but the deployment method Performance Modeler does.

For the sake of clarity, here is the last entry from IBM on ticket TS016115912:

"There is no intention to remove the Application Web. Please note that with the removal of Performance Modeler, there will be no possibility of making changes to any application if such need arise."

Applications and Plans is the designated replacement for TM1 Applications. However, there won't be a direct migration path from the existing product. The replacement will be implemented within the context of a new product offering.

In light of what has been said I have asked for further information.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Wed June 19, 2024 01:16 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Julian

Unfortunately, there must have been some misunderstanding between you and IBM Support. 

Planning Analytics Local 2.1 does not included support for rich tier components, including TM1 applications, which is stated in the depriciation note linked above.

Could your ticket be regarding the removal of access to the rich tier clients via rdp on PA on Cloud, and not 2.1 local? 

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 01:46 PM
From: Julian Sedgewick
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Emil,

I've just had confirmation from IBM support that there is no intention to shutdown "Application Web", we will however loose the ability to administrate the models through Performance Modeller.

So whilst not be able to "deploy" new models, we will still be able to change our workflow subsets and responsibility etc.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 02:49 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Ryan,

I understand the confusion. TM1 Applications, are web based workflows that where created using TM1 Performance Modeler. In Architect/Perspectives, there where also a folder structure called "Application" which is a different feature. Basically just a folder structure. 

TM1 Applications will be completely gone. A folder structure can still be created for uploading Excel reports. In PAW/PAfE the entry is called "Websheets" and not Applications. That will still be availible.

Note that the folders can only be used for websheets, where Architect/Perspectives could have references to views and processes as well.

So what you have in PAW/PAfE today, will still be there on v2.1.x

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 17, 2024 04:28 PM
From: Ryan Sinclair
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------

Hi Stuart,

This is slightly comforting to know Application Web (PMPSVC) will be available post rich tier removal as we have an complex journal model which utilise the workflow. 

Thanks

Skina

Hi All,

Planning Analytics on Cloud really is not Planning Analytics 2.0.9 or 2.1.  It is it's own product with it's own support lifecycle.  The support lifecycle of Planning Analytics Local releases does not impact what we support in our SaaS offering.

That being said, our strategy on-premises and in our SaaS offerings is to move workflow capabilities into Planning Analytics Workspace (PAW).  There are many reasons why we are moving workflow capabilities into PAW.  For example, PAW is more scalable than TM1 Applications (pmpsvc).  PAW also supports non-admin users creating and managing workflows.  In TM1 Applications only the Admin in the TM1 database can create and manage a workflow (application).

It's important to understand that when the rich tier is removed from Planning Analytics on Cloud environments that applications deployed in TM1 Applications (the pmpsvc web service) can no longer be updated.  Although the TM1 Applications (pmpsvc service) may still exist and be accessible, it will be removed on the next update to the web tier system.  The web tier system (system with TM1Web and TM1 Applications) is updated at the same time that the TM1 database is updated.  Customers that are requesting an update to either TM1 Server or TM1Web will be reminded that TM1 Applications will be removed as part of the update.  

Julian, if you are still using TM1 Applications (pmpsvc) on Planning Analytics on Cloud please reach out to me directly (stuart.king@ca.ibm.com).  We should determine if you can move your existing workflows to the Plans feature in PAW.  There are a number of important very near term enhancements coming to Plans in PAW that will be familiar to users of TM1 Applications.

Note that the rich tier removal does not impact TM1Web and you will continue to see the 'Applications' folder in TM1Web with all of your Websheets.  

Hi Julian,

That makes sense. PA on Cloud is deployed on 2.0.x, and the depreciation is happening in version 2.1.x. I'm not sure 2.1.x is even available for cloud deployments yet.

Hi Emil,

Thank you for your quick reply, as you can imagine its causing quite a panic insofar as a non rich tier service is being withdrawn without anything to replace it at the moment.   

We only use cloud.

I think what may be causing the confusion is that the pmpsvc service does not run in the rich tier but the deployment method Performance Modeler does.

For the sake of clarity, here is the last entry from IBM on ticket TS016115912:

"There is no intention to remove the Application Web. Please note that with the removal of Performance Modeler, there will be no possibility of making changes to any application if such need arise."

Applications and Plans is the designated replacement for TM1 Applications. However, there won't be a direct migration path from the existing product. The replacement will be implemented within the context of a new product offering.

In light of what has been said I have asked for further information.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Wed June 19, 2024 01:16 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Julian

Unfortunately, there must have been some misunderstanding between you and IBM Support. 

Planning Analytics Local 2.1 does not included support for rich tier components, including TM1 applications, which is stated in the depriciation note linked above.

Could your ticket be regarding the removal of access to the rich tier clients via rdp on PA on Cloud, and not 2.1 local? 

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 01:46 PM
From: Julian Sedgewick
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Emil,

I've just had confirmation from IBM support that there is no intention to shutdown "Application Web", we will however loose the ability to administrate the models through Performance Modeller.

So whilst not be able to "deploy" new models, we will still be able to change our workflow subsets and responsibility etc.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 02:49 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Ryan,

I understand the confusion. TM1 Applications, are web based workflows that where created using TM1 Performance Modeler. In Architect/Perspectives, there where also a folder structure called "Application" which is a different feature. Basically just a folder structure. 

TM1 Applications will be completely gone. A folder structure can still be created for uploading Excel reports. In PAW/PAfE the entry is called "Websheets" and not Applications. That will still be availible.

Note that the folders can only be used for websheets, where Architect/Perspectives could have references to views and processes as well.

So what you have in PAW/PAfE today, will still be there on v2.1.x

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 17, 2024 04:28 PM
From: Ryan Sinclair
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------

Hi Skina,

I think you missed the important detail in my previous response.

It's important to understand that when the rich tier is removed from Planning Analytics on Cloud environments that applications deployed in TM1 Applications (the pmpsvc web service) can no longer be updated.  Although the TM1 Applications (pmpsvc service) may still exist and be accessible, it will be removed on the next update to the web tier system.  The web tier system (system with TM1Web and TM1 Applications) is updated at the same time that the TM1 database is updated.  Customers that are requesting an update to either TM1 Server or TM1Web will be reminded that TM1 Applications will be removed as part of the update.  

I'm stating that you cannot depend on the TM1 Applications (pmpsvc) being accessible and usable once the rich tier is removed.   

Hi Stuart,

This is slightly comforting to know Application Web (PMPSVC) will be available post rich tier removal as we have an complex journal model which utilise the workflow. 

Thanks

Skina

Hi All,

Planning Analytics on Cloud really is not Planning Analytics 2.0.9 or 2.1.  It is it's own product with it's own support lifecycle.  The support lifecycle of Planning Analytics Local releases does not impact what we support in our SaaS offering.

That being said, our strategy on-premises and in our SaaS offerings is to move workflow capabilities into Planning Analytics Workspace (PAW).  There are many reasons why we are moving workflow capabilities into PAW.  For example, PAW is more scalable than TM1 Applications (pmpsvc).  PAW also supports non-admin users creating and managing workflows.  In TM1 Applications only the Admin in the TM1 database can create and manage a workflow (application).

It's important to understand that when the rich tier is removed from Planning Analytics on Cloud environments that applications deployed in TM1 Applications (the pmpsvc web service) can no longer be updated.  Although the TM1 Applications (pmpsvc service) may still exist and be accessible, it will be removed on the next update to the web tier system.  The web tier system (system with TM1Web and TM1 Applications) is updated at the same time that the TM1 database is updated.  Customers that are requesting an update to either TM1 Server or TM1Web will be reminded that TM1 Applications will be removed as part of the update.  

Julian, if you are still using TM1 Applications (pmpsvc) on Planning Analytics on Cloud please reach out to me directly (stuart.king@ca.ibm.com).  We should determine if you can move your existing workflows to the Plans feature in PAW.  There are a number of important very near term enhancements coming to Plans in PAW that will be familiar to users of TM1 Applications.

Note that the rich tier removal does not impact TM1Web and you will continue to see the 'Applications' folder in TM1Web with all of your Websheets.  

Hi Julian,

That makes sense. PA on Cloud is deployed on 2.0.x, and the depreciation is happening in version 2.1.x. I'm not sure 2.1.x is even available for cloud deployments yet.

Hi Emil,

Thank you for your quick reply, as you can imagine its causing quite a panic insofar as a non rich tier service is being withdrawn without anything to replace it at the moment.   

We only use cloud.

I think what may be causing the confusion is that the pmpsvc service does not run in the rich tier but the deployment method Performance Modeler does.

For the sake of clarity, here is the last entry from IBM on ticket TS016115912:

"There is no intention to remove the Application Web. Please note that with the removal of Performance Modeler, there will be no possibility of making changes to any application if such need arise."

Applications and Plans is the designated replacement for TM1 Applications. However, there won't be a direct migration path from the existing product. The replacement will be implemented within the context of a new product offering.

In light of what has been said I have asked for further information.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Wed June 19, 2024 01:16 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Julian

Unfortunately, there must have been some misunderstanding between you and IBM Support. 

Planning Analytics Local 2.1 does not included support for rich tier components, including TM1 applications, which is stated in the depriciation note linked above.

Could your ticket be regarding the removal of access to the rich tier clients via rdp on PA on Cloud, and not 2.1 local? 

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 01:46 PM
From: Julian Sedgewick
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Emil,

I've just had confirmation from IBM support that there is no intention to shutdown "Application Web", we will however loose the ability to administrate the models through Performance Modeller.

So whilst not be able to "deploy" new models, we will still be able to change our workflow subsets and responsibility etc.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 02:49 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Ryan,

I understand the confusion. TM1 Applications, are web based workflows that where created using TM1 Performance Modeler. In Architect/Perspectives, there where also a folder structure called "Application" which is a different feature. Basically just a folder structure. 

TM1 Applications will be completely gone. A folder structure can still be created for uploading Excel reports. In PAW/PAfE the entry is called "Websheets" and not Applications. That will still be availible.

Note that the folders can only be used for websheets, where Architect/Perspectives could have references to views and processes as well.

So what you have in PAW/PAfE today, will still be there on v2.1.x

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 17, 2024 04:28 PM
From: Ryan Sinclair
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------

Hi All,

Planning Analytics on Cloud really is not Planning Analytics 2.0.9 or 2.1.  It is it's own product with it's own support lifecycle.  The support lifecycle of Planning Analytics Local releases does not impact what we support in our SaaS offering.

That being said, our strategy on-premises and in our SaaS offerings is to move workflow capabilities into Planning Analytics Workspace (PAW).  There are many reasons why we are moving workflow capabilities into PAW.  For example, PAW is more scalable than TM1 Applications (pmpsvc).  PAW also supports non-admin users creating and managing workflows.  In TM1 Applications only the Admin in the TM1 database can create and manage a workflow (application).

It's important to understand that when the rich tier is removed from Planning Analytics on Cloud environments that applications deployed in TM1 Applications (the pmpsvc web service) can no longer be updated.  Although the TM1 Applications (pmpsvc service) may still exist and be accessible, it will be removed on the next update to the web tier system.  The web tier system (system with TM1Web and TM1 Applications) is updated at the same time that the TM1 database is updated.  Customers that are requesting an update to either TM1 Server or TM1Web will be reminded that TM1 Applications will be removed as part of the update.  

Julian, if you are still using TM1 Applications (pmpsvc) on Planning Analytics on Cloud please reach out to me directly (stuart.king@ca.ibm.com).  We should determine if you can move your existing workflows to the Plans feature in PAW.  There are a number of important very near term enhancements coming to Plans in PAW that will be familiar to users of TM1 Applications.

Note that the rich tier removal does not impact TM1Web and you will continue to see the 'Applications' folder in TM1Web with all of your Websheets.  

Hi Julian,

That makes sense. PA on Cloud is deployed on 2.0.x, and the depreciation is happening in version 2.1.x. I'm not sure 2.1.x is even available for cloud deployments yet.

Hi Emil,

Thank you for your quick reply, as you can imagine its causing quite a panic insofar as a non rich tier service is being withdrawn without anything to replace it at the moment.   

We only use cloud.

I think what may be causing the confusion is that the pmpsvc service does not run in the rich tier but the deployment method Performance Modeler does.

For the sake of clarity, here is the last entry from IBM on ticket TS016115912:

"There is no intention to remove the Application Web. Please note that with the removal of Performance Modeler, there will be no possibility of making changes to any application if such need arise."

Applications and Plans is the designated replacement for TM1 Applications. However, there won't be a direct migration path from the existing product. The replacement will be implemented within the context of a new product offering.

In light of what has been said I have asked for further information.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Wed June 19, 2024 01:16 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Julian

Unfortunately, there must have been some misunderstanding between you and IBM Support. 

Planning Analytics Local 2.1 does not included support for rich tier components, including TM1 applications, which is stated in the depriciation note linked above.

Could your ticket be regarding the removal of access to the rich tier clients via rdp on PA on Cloud, and not 2.1 local? 

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 01:46 PM
From: Julian Sedgewick
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Emil,

I've just had confirmation from IBM support that there is no intention to shutdown "Application Web", we will however loose the ability to administrate the models through Performance Modeller.

So whilst not be able to "deploy" new models, we will still be able to change our workflow subsets and responsibility etc.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 02:49 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Ryan,

I understand the confusion. TM1 Applications, are web based workflows that where created using TM1 Performance Modeler. In Architect/Perspectives, there where also a folder structure called "Application" which is a different feature. Basically just a folder structure. 

TM1 Applications will be completely gone. A folder structure can still be created for uploading Excel reports. In PAW/PAfE the entry is called "Websheets" and not Applications. That will still be availible.

Note that the folders can only be used for websheets, where Architect/Perspectives could have references to views and processes as well.

So what you have in PAW/PAfE today, will still be there on v2.1.x

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 17, 2024 04:28 PM
From: Ryan Sinclair
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------

Hi Stuart,

For the Applications folder structure within Architect/Perspectives/PAFE, where will updates to the folder structure occur after deprecation?  I usually make folder changes in Architect.  I don't see a way to do this in PAW Workbench or in PAFE.  Will this be added to allow creation of new folders and maintaining the folder structure?

Hi All,

Planning Analytics on Cloud really is not Planning Analytics 2.0.9 or 2.1.  It is it's own product with it's own support lifecycle.  The support lifecycle of Planning Analytics Local releases does not impact what we support in our SaaS offering.

That being said, our strategy on-premises and in our SaaS offerings is to move workflow capabilities into Planning Analytics Workspace (PAW).  There are many reasons why we are moving workflow capabilities into PAW.  For example, PAW is more scalable than TM1 Applications (pmpsvc).  PAW also supports non-admin users creating and managing workflows.  In TM1 Applications only the Admin in the TM1 database can create and manage a workflow (application).

It's important to understand that when the rich tier is removed from Planning Analytics on Cloud environments that applications deployed in TM1 Applications (the pmpsvc web service) can no longer be updated.  Although the TM1 Applications (pmpsvc service) may still exist and be accessible, it will be removed on the next update to the web tier system.  The web tier system (system with TM1Web and TM1 Applications) is updated at the same time that the TM1 database is updated.  Customers that are requesting an update to either TM1 Server or TM1Web will be reminded that TM1 Applications will be removed as part of the update.  

Julian, if you are still using TM1 Applications (pmpsvc) on Planning Analytics on Cloud please reach out to me directly (stuart.king@ca.ibm.com).  We should determine if you can move your existing workflows to the Plans feature in PAW.  There are a number of important very near term enhancements coming to Plans in PAW that will be familiar to users of TM1 Applications.

Note that the rich tier removal does not impact TM1Web and you will continue to see the 'Applications' folder in TM1Web with all of your Websheets.  

Hi Julian,

That makes sense. PA on Cloud is deployed on 2.0.x, and the depreciation is happening in version 2.1.x. I'm not sure 2.1.x is even available for cloud deployments yet.

Hi Emil,

Thank you for your quick reply, as you can imagine its causing quite a panic insofar as a non rich tier service is being withdrawn without anything to replace it at the moment.   

We only use cloud.

I think what may be causing the confusion is that the pmpsvc service does not run in the rich tier but the deployment method Performance Modeler does.

For the sake of clarity, here is the last entry from IBM on ticket TS016115912:

"There is no intention to remove the Application Web. Please note that with the removal of Performance Modeler, there will be no possibility of making changes to any application if such need arise."

Applications and Plans is the designated replacement for TM1 Applications. However, there won't be a direct migration path from the existing product. The replacement will be implemented within the context of a new product offering.

In light of what has been said I have asked for further information.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Wed June 19, 2024 01:16 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Julian

Unfortunately, there must have been some misunderstanding between you and IBM Support. 

Planning Analytics Local 2.1 does not included support for rich tier components, including TM1 applications, which is stated in the depriciation note linked above.

Could your ticket be regarding the removal of access to the rich tier clients via rdp on PA on Cloud, and not 2.1 local? 

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 01:46 PM
From: Julian Sedgewick
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Emil,

I've just had confirmation from IBM support that there is no intention to shutdown "Application Web", we will however loose the ability to administrate the models through Performance Modeller.

So whilst not be able to "deploy" new models, we will still be able to change our workflow subsets and responsibility etc.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 02:49 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Ryan,

I understand the confusion. TM1 Applications, are web based workflows that where created using TM1 Performance Modeler. In Architect/Perspectives, there where also a folder structure called "Application" which is a different feature. Basically just a folder structure. 

TM1 Applications will be completely gone. A folder structure can still be created for uploading Excel reports. In PAW/PAfE the entry is called "Websheets" and not Applications. That will still be availible.

Note that the folders can only be used for websheets, where Architect/Perspectives could have references to views and processes as well.

So what you have in PAW/PAfE today, will still be there on v2.1.x

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 17, 2024 04:28 PM
From: Ryan Sinclair
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------

Hi Terry

You can update the 'Applications' folder structure in Planning Analytics for Excel.  The 'Open' button in the ribbon is used to access the folder structure.  There are buttons to create, delete, and rename folders.  Let me know if there is something I'm missing.  I believe the }ApplicationSecurity cube can be updated in Workspace modeling to set security (this might be an area we need to improve).

One important note, after Architect and Perspectives is removed there will be no way to add shortcuts to views, processes, and upload documented to the  Applications folder.  You may have noticed that the Applications folder was renamed to Websheets in Workspace and we filter out objects other than Websheets in Workspace.  Views, TI processes, and other objects can be made available through Workspace books.  Our content strategy is based on using Workspace to store, manage, and secure content (instead of using TM1's Applications folder).

Hi Stuart,

For the Applications folder structure within Architect/Perspectives/PAFE, where will updates to the folder structure occur after deprecation?  I usually make folder changes in Architect.  I don't see a way to do this in PAW Workbench or in PAFE.  Will this be added to allow creation of new folders and maintaining the folder structure?

Hi All,

Planning Analytics on Cloud really is not Planning Analytics 2.0.9 or 2.1.  It is it's own product with it's own support lifecycle.  The support lifecycle of Planning Analytics Local releases does not impact what we support in our SaaS offering.

That being said, our strategy on-premises and in our SaaS offerings is to move workflow capabilities into Planning Analytics Workspace (PAW).  There are many reasons why we are moving workflow capabilities into PAW.  For example, PAW is more scalable than TM1 Applications (pmpsvc).  PAW also supports non-admin users creating and managing workflows.  In TM1 Applications only the Admin in the TM1 database can create and manage a workflow (application).

It's important to understand that when the rich tier is removed from Planning Analytics on Cloud environments that applications deployed in TM1 Applications (the pmpsvc web service) can no longer be updated.  Although the TM1 Applications (pmpsvc service) may still exist and be accessible, it will be removed on the next update to the web tier system.  The web tier system (system with TM1Web and TM1 Applications) is updated at the same time that the TM1 database is updated.  Customers that are requesting an update to either TM1 Server or TM1Web will be reminded that TM1 Applications will be removed as part of the update.  

Julian, if you are still using TM1 Applications (pmpsvc) on Planning Analytics on Cloud please reach out to me directly (stuart.king@ca.ibm.com).  We should determine if you can move your existing workflows to the Plans feature in PAW.  There are a number of important very near term enhancements coming to Plans in PAW that will be familiar to users of TM1 Applications.

Note that the rich tier removal does not impact TM1Web and you will continue to see the 'Applications' folder in TM1Web with all of your Websheets.  

Hi Julian,

That makes sense. PA on Cloud is deployed on 2.0.x, and the depreciation is happening in version 2.1.x. I'm not sure 2.1.x is even available for cloud deployments yet.

Hi Emil,

Thank you for your quick reply, as you can imagine its causing quite a panic insofar as a non rich tier service is being withdrawn without anything to replace it at the moment.   

We only use cloud.

I think what may be causing the confusion is that the pmpsvc service does not run in the rich tier but the deployment method Performance Modeler does.

For the sake of clarity, here is the last entry from IBM on ticket TS016115912:

"There is no intention to remove the Application Web. Please note that with the removal of Performance Modeler, there will be no possibility of making changes to any application if such need arise."

Applications and Plans is the designated replacement for TM1 Applications. However, there won't be a direct migration path from the existing product. The replacement will be implemented within the context of a new product offering.

In light of what has been said I have asked for further information.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Wed June 19, 2024 01:16 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Julian

Unfortunately, there must have been some misunderstanding between you and IBM Support. 

Planning Analytics Local 2.1 does not included support for rich tier components, including TM1 applications, which is stated in the depriciation note linked above.

Could your ticket be regarding the removal of access to the rich tier clients via rdp on PA on Cloud, and not 2.1 local? 

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 01:46 PM
From: Julian Sedgewick
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Emil,

I've just had confirmation from IBM support that there is no intention to shutdown "Application Web", we will however loose the ability to administrate the models through Performance Modeller.

So whilst not be able to "deploy" new models, we will still be able to change our workflow subsets and responsibility etc.

------------------------------
Julian Sedgewick

Original Message:
Sent: Tue June 18, 2024 02:49 AM
From: Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Hi Ryan,

I understand the confusion. TM1 Applications, are web based workflows that where created using TM1 Performance Modeler. In Architect/Perspectives, there where also a folder structure called "Application" which is a different feature. Basically just a folder structure. 

TM1 Applications will be completely gone. A folder structure can still be created for uploading Excel reports. In PAW/PAfE the entry is called "Websheets" and not Applications. That will still be availible.

Note that the folders can only be used for websheets, where Architect/Perspectives could have references to views and processes as well.

So what you have in PAW/PAfE today, will still be there on v2.1.x

------------------------------
Emil Malmberg Fosdal
Solution Architect
CogniTech A/S

Original Message:
Sent: Mon June 17, 2024 04:28 PM
From: Ryan Sinclair
Subject: PA 2.1 Deprecation "TM1 Applications"

Looking for clarification on the depreciation notice, "TM1 Applications"  Deprecated features in IBM Planning Analytics Local 2.1

Is this that there won't be the "Applications" in Perspectives/Architect, but will still have the folder structure availability in PAFE for publishing, or is this what was formerly known as contributor? 

------------------------------
Ryan S
------------------------------