TRIRIGA

Hi everyone,
I've been working with our Building Data team and they are transitioning from CAD to Revit (Note: I am translating their expertise and may get a few terms wrong below). Currently, we actually have something hybrid as our CAD files are imported into Revit and then processed into TRIRIGA using BIM Connector. As we begin dropping the CAD part and fully developing Revit models we are encountering the need to utilize the Area object in Revit and dealing with the way TRIRIGA incorporates that into the Space portfolio.

This procedure now creates parent/child spaces where the parent has no real dimensional or administrative value but is necessary to maintain the Area/Room configuration in Revit. Many OOTB reports and rollups in the Floor/Building records (see Allocation section) do not read correctly where this has been applied. For the most part I think we resolve the reporting issue by applying some custom filters but the rollup seem  little trickier. 

I am reluctant to apply any solution yet though as I want to make sure we're not missing something. Since BIM Connector is such a big part of the TRIRIGA system, I would think there has already been some consideration for this. Has IBM deployed any Platform changes that account for Revit Areas as Spaces and their downstream effects? Does anyone know if there is a user group that focuses on CAD integrator/BIM connector issues?

Specs: 3.8/10.5 transitioning to 10.8

Thanks in advance for any contributions!

Cheers,

Wayne

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wayne coffey
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#AssetandFacilitiesManagement
#TRIRIGA

Hi Wayne,
Sorry I am late to the discussion. I am now working on BIM and found the same stuff. Have you been able to figure this out yet? How is your integration/upgrade to Revit going?
Thanks
Kamal

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Kamal Subedi
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Original Message:
Sent: Thu February 03, 2022 05:53 PM
From: wayne coffey
Subject: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

Hi everyone,
I've been working with our Building Data team and they are transitioning from CAD to Revit (Note: I am translating their expertise and may get a few terms wrong below). Currently, we actually have something hybrid as our CAD files are imported into Revit and then processed into TRIRIGA using BIM Connector. As we begin dropping the CAD part and fully developing Revit models we are encountering the need to utilize the Area object in Revit and dealing with the way TRIRIGA incorporates that into the Space portfolio.

This procedure now creates parent/child spaces where the parent has no real dimensional or administrative value but is necessary to maintain the Area/Room configuration in Revit. Many OOTB reports and rollups in the Floor/Building records (see Allocation section) do not read correctly where this has been applied. For the most part I think we resolve the reporting issue by applying some custom filters but the rollup seem  little trickier. 

I am reluctant to apply any solution yet though as I want to make sure we're not missing something. Since BIM Connector is such a big part of the TRIRIGA system, I would think there has already been some consideration for this. Has IBM deployed any Platform changes that account for Revit Areas as Spaces and their downstream effects? Does anyone know if there is a user group that focuses on CAD integrator/BIM connector issues?

Specs: 3.8/10.5 transitioning to 10.8

Thanks in advance for any contributions!

Cheers,

Wayne

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wayne coffey
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#AssetandFacilitiesManagement
#TRIRIGA

Hi Wayne/Kamal,

IBM said they fixed some of these issues in 4.3/11.3. Here is the release notes they provided.
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/IBM_TRIRIGA_Release_Notes_for_11.3_and_4.3.pdf

Thanks
Suneela

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Suneela Kantamaneni
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Original Message:
Sent: Wed November 02, 2022 08:49 PM
From: Kamal Subedi
Subject: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

Hi Wayne,
Sorry I am late to the discussion. I am now working on BIM and found the same stuff. Have you been able to figure this out yet? How is your integration/upgrade to Revit going?
Thanks
Kamal

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Kamal Subedi

Original Message:
Sent: Thu February 03, 2022 05:53 PM
From: wayne coffey
Subject: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

Hi everyone,
I've been working with our Building Data team and they are transitioning from CAD to Revit (Note: I am translating their expertise and may get a few terms wrong below). Currently, we actually have something hybrid as our CAD files are imported into Revit and then processed into TRIRIGA using BIM Connector. As we begin dropping the CAD part and fully developing Revit models we are encountering the need to utilize the Area object in Revit and dealing with the way TRIRIGA incorporates that into the Space portfolio.

This procedure now creates parent/child spaces where the parent has no real dimensional or administrative value but is necessary to maintain the Area/Room configuration in Revit. Many OOTB reports and rollups in the Floor/Building records (see Allocation section) do not read correctly where this has been applied. For the most part I think we resolve the reporting issue by applying some custom filters but the rollup seem  little trickier. 

I am reluctant to apply any solution yet though as I want to make sure we're not missing something. Since BIM Connector is such a big part of the TRIRIGA system, I would think there has already been some consideration for this. Has IBM deployed any Platform changes that account for Revit Areas as Spaces and their downstream effects? Does anyone know if there is a user group that focuses on CAD integrator/BIM connector issues?

Specs: 3.8/10.5 transitioning to 10.8

Thanks in advance for any contributions!

Cheers,

Wayne

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wayne coffey
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#TRIRIGA
#AssetandFacilitiesManagement

Original Message:
Sent: 11/2/2022 8:50:00 PM
From: Kamal Subedi
Subject: RE: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

Hi Wayne,
Sorry I am late to the discussion. I am now working on BIM and found the same stuff. Have you been able to figure this out yet? How is your integration/upgrade to Revit going?
Thanks
Kamal

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Kamal Subedi
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Original Message:
Sent: Thu February 03, 2022 05:53 PM
From: wayne coffey
Subject: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

Hi everyone,
I've been working with our Building Data team and they are transitioning from CAD to Revit (Note: I am translating their expertise and may get a few terms wrong below). Currently, we actually have something hybrid as our CAD files are imported into Revit and then processed into TRIRIGA using BIM Connector. As we begin dropping the CAD part and fully developing Revit models we are encountering the need to utilize the Area object in Revit and dealing with the way TRIRIGA incorporates that into the Space portfolio.

This procedure now creates parent/child spaces where the parent has no real dimensional or administrative value but is necessary to maintain the Area/Room configuration in Revit. Many OOTB reports and rollups in the Floor/Building records (see Allocation section) do not read correctly where this has been applied. For the most part I think we resolve the reporting issue by applying some custom filters but the rollup seem  little trickier. 

I am reluctant to apply any solution yet though as I want to make sure we're not missing something. Since BIM Connector is such a big part of the TRIRIGA system, I would think there has already been some consideration for this. Has IBM deployed any Platform changes that account for Revit Areas as Spaces and their downstream effects? Does anyone know if there is a user group that focuses on CAD integrator/BIM connector issues?

Specs: 3.8/10.5 transitioning to 10.8

Thanks in advance for any contributions!

Cheers,

Wayne

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wayne coffey
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#TRIRIGA
#AssetandFacilitiesManagement

Hi Horatio,
Let's connect and discuss.

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Kamal Subedi
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Original Message:
Sent: Wed November 09, 2022 02:54 AM
From: Horatio McDowney
Subject: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

To my knowledge there is not a group that discusses such items and my agency is seriously investigating the same type of solution. It may be best to set up a meeting between our respective agencies to discuss the technical details of what we are planning, what you are seeing and what we are looking for as a combined team.

Please use the meeting request link in my email, if it is contained in this reply, if not, please let me know if you have some ideal times next week to discuss and I'll arrange for key members of our technical team to be present. This has become a high priority for our team.

Thanks and all the best,

-H

_______________________________________

Horatio McDowney

IT Applications Project Specialist

Building Information Planning & Strategy Branch

Center for Building Information Systems 

Office of Public Buildings IT Services - GSA IT

US General Services Administration

1800 F Street NW

Washington, DC 20407

m 202.450.9725 | Request Meeting

Original Message:
Sent: 11/2/2022 8:50:00 PM
From: Kamal Subedi
Subject: RE: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

Hi Wayne,
Sorry I am late to the discussion. I am now working on BIM and found the same stuff. Have you been able to figure this out yet? How is your integration/upgrade to Revit going?
Thanks
Kamal

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Kamal Subedi

Original Message:
Sent: Thu February 03, 2022 05:53 PM
From: wayne coffey
Subject: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

Hi everyone,
I've been working with our Building Data team and they are transitioning from CAD to Revit (Note: I am translating their expertise and may get a few terms wrong below). Currently, we actually have something hybrid as our CAD files are imported into Revit and then processed into TRIRIGA using BIM Connector. As we begin dropping the CAD part and fully developing Revit models we are encountering the need to utilize the Area object in Revit and dealing with the way TRIRIGA incorporates that into the Space portfolio.

This procedure now creates parent/child spaces where the parent has no real dimensional or administrative value but is necessary to maintain the Area/Room configuration in Revit. Many OOTB reports and rollups in the Floor/Building records (see Allocation section) do not read correctly where this has been applied. For the most part I think we resolve the reporting issue by applying some custom filters but the rollup seem  little trickier. 

I am reluctant to apply any solution yet though as I want to make sure we're not missing something. Since BIM Connector is such a big part of the TRIRIGA system, I would think there has already been some consideration for this. Has IBM deployed any Platform changes that account for Revit Areas as Spaces and their downstream effects? Does anyone know if there is a user group that focuses on CAD integrator/BIM connector issues?

Specs: 3.8/10.5 transitioning to 10.8

Thanks in advance for any contributions!

Cheers,

Wayne

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wayne coffey
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#AssetandFacilitiesManagement
#TRIRIGA

Original Message:
Sent: 11/2/2022 8:50:00 PM
From: Kamal Subedi
Subject: RE: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

Hi Wayne,
Sorry I am late to the discussion. I am now working on BIM and found the same stuff. Have you been able to figure this out yet? How is your integration/upgrade to Revit going?
Thanks
Kamal

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Kamal Subedi
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Original Message:
Sent: Thu February 03, 2022 05:53 PM
From: wayne coffey
Subject: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

Hi everyone,
I've been working with our Building Data team and they are transitioning from CAD to Revit (Note: I am translating their expertise and may get a few terms wrong below). Currently, we actually have something hybrid as our CAD files are imported into Revit and then processed into TRIRIGA using BIM Connector. As we begin dropping the CAD part and fully developing Revit models we are encountering the need to utilize the Area object in Revit and dealing with the way TRIRIGA incorporates that into the Space portfolio.

This procedure now creates parent/child spaces where the parent has no real dimensional or administrative value but is necessary to maintain the Area/Room configuration in Revit. Many OOTB reports and rollups in the Floor/Building records (see Allocation section) do not read correctly where this has been applied. For the most part I think we resolve the reporting issue by applying some custom filters but the rollup seem  little trickier. 

I am reluctant to apply any solution yet though as I want to make sure we're not missing something. Since BIM Connector is such a big part of the TRIRIGA system, I would think there has already been some consideration for this. Has IBM deployed any Platform changes that account for Revit Areas as Spaces and their downstream effects? Does anyone know if there is a user group that focuses on CAD integrator/BIM connector issues?

Specs: 3.8/10.5 transitioning to 10.8

Thanks in advance for any contributions!

Cheers,

Wayne

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wayne coffey
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#TRIRIGA
#AssetandFacilitiesManagement

Original Message:
Sent: 11/14/2022 11:54:00 AM
From: wayne coffey
Subject: RE: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

Hi all, 

I'm catching up with this thread. We did get some feedback from IBM. There is an APAR for this issue but not much of a solution yet for the version we are on. Looking ahead the newest version 8s not really a solution for us right now. 

I am open to a meet up with this group. 

Note: the shortcut work around is to reverse the Parent/Child association filter in the Space Reports.

Original Message:
Sent: 11/2/2022 8:50:00 PM
From: Kamal Subedi
Subject: RE: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

Hi Wayne,
Sorry I am late to the discussion. I am now working on BIM and found the same stuff. Have you been able to figure this out yet? How is your integration/upgrade to Revit going?
Thanks
Kamal

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Kamal Subedi
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Original Message:
Sent: Thu February 03, 2022 05:53 PM
From: wayne coffey
Subject: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

Hi everyone,
I've been working with our Building Data team and they are transitioning from CAD to Revit (Note: I am translating their expertise and may get a few terms wrong below). Currently, we actually have something hybrid as our CAD files are imported into Revit and then processed into TRIRIGA using BIM Connector. As we begin dropping the CAD part and fully developing Revit models we are encountering the need to utilize the Area object in Revit and dealing with the way TRIRIGA incorporates that into the Space portfolio.

This procedure now creates parent/child spaces where the parent has no real dimensional or administrative value but is necessary to maintain the Area/Room configuration in Revit. Many OOTB reports and rollups in the Floor/Building records (see Allocation section) do not read correctly where this has been applied. For the most part I think we resolve the reporting issue by applying some custom filters but the rollup seem  little trickier. 

I am reluctant to apply any solution yet though as I want to make sure we're not missing something. Since BIM Connector is such a big part of the TRIRIGA system, I would think there has already been some consideration for this. Has IBM deployed any Platform changes that account for Revit Areas as Spaces and their downstream effects? Does anyone know if there is a user group that focuses on CAD integrator/BIM connector issues?

Specs: 3.8/10.5 transitioning to 10.8

Thanks in advance for any contributions!

Cheers,

Wayne

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wayne coffey
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#TRIRIGA
#AssetandFacilitiesManagement

Wayne,
It's Jason from your old cubicle. Let me know if you find out anything. BIM Connector isn't efficient enough for me to use at the moment.

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Jayson Snydam
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Original Message:
Sent: Thu February 03, 2022 05:53 PM
From: wayne coffey
Subject: Looking for a BIM Connector user group/portfolio solution

Hi everyone,
I've been working with our Building Data team and they are transitioning from CAD to Revit (Note: I am translating their expertise and may get a few terms wrong below). Currently, we actually have something hybrid as our CAD files are imported into Revit and then processed into TRIRIGA using BIM Connector. As we begin dropping the CAD part and fully developing Revit models we are encountering the need to utilize the Area object in Revit and dealing with the way TRIRIGA incorporates that into the Space portfolio.

This procedure now creates parent/child spaces where the parent has no real dimensional or administrative value but is necessary to maintain the Area/Room configuration in Revit. Many OOTB reports and rollups in the Floor/Building records (see Allocation section) do not read correctly where this has been applied. For the most part I think we resolve the reporting issue by applying some custom filters but the rollup seem  little trickier. 

I am reluctant to apply any solution yet though as I want to make sure we're not missing something. Since BIM Connector is such a big part of the TRIRIGA system, I would think there has already been some consideration for this. Has IBM deployed any Platform changes that account for Revit Areas as Spaces and their downstream effects? Does anyone know if there is a user group that focuses on CAD integrator/BIM connector issues?

Specs: 3.8/10.5 transitioning to 10.8

Thanks in advance for any contributions!

Cheers,

Wayne

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wayne coffey
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#AssetandFacilitiesManagement
#TRIRIGA