Primary Storage

Hi All,

I have 12 directory on one of the stgpool we have added one more and define into that stgpool although we can see that space is showing added  while running q stg but at the same time it is not updating on operation center still showing old size and displaying a error message of threshold on operation center. Please let me know what to do.

I have 2-3 query please advise.

1. how expiration is working on this directory container pool.
2. how space will reclaim after expiration.
3. how these threshold message will go from operation center.

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Prem Singh

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Hi,

below is the snapshot for your reference.


Storage pool snapshot from admin console.



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Prem Singh

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Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2019 11:03 PM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi All,

I have 12 directory on one of the stgpool we have added one more and define into that stgpool although we can see that space is showing added  while running q stg but at the same time it is not updating on operation center still showing old size and displaying a error message of threshold on operation center. Please let me know what to do.

I have 2-3 query please advise.

1. how expiration is working on this directory container pool.
2. how space will reclaim after expiration.
3. how these threshold message will go from operation center.

------------------------------
Prem Singh

------------------------------

Original Message------

Hi,

below is the snapshot for your reference.


Storage pool snapshot from admin console.



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Prem Singh

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Hi,
What does 'q stgpooldire f=d' show?

And, if you look for entries in the new directory

q container /path/to/new/dire/* f=d

Håkon

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Håkon Phillip Tønder-Keul
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-07-2019 12:38 AM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi,

below is the snapshot for your reference.


Storage pool snapshot from admin console.



------------------------------
Prem Singh


Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2019 11:03 PM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi All,

I have 12 directory on one of the stgpool we have added one more and define into that stgpool although we can see that space is showing added  while running q stg but at the same time it is not updating on operation center still showing old size and displaying a error message of threshold on operation center. Please let me know what to do.

I have 2-3 query please advise.

1. how expiration is working on this directory container pool.
2. how space will reclaim after expiration.
3. how these threshold message will go from operation center.

------------------------------
Prem Singh

------------------------------

Original Message------

Hi,
What does 'q stgpooldire f=d' show?

And, if you look for entries in the new directory

q container /path/to/new/dire/* f=d

Håkon

------------------------------
Håkon Phillip Tønder-Keul
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How expiration and reclamation is working in directory container pool.

1. Because I am keep on adding space from storage and mximum I have 30 days retention for any backup still I always needed space on every week to extend the file system space of storage pools.
 I read in the document reclaim command is not supported then how space is reclaiming after expiration.

------------------------------
Prem Singh
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2019 11:03 PM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi All,

I have 12 directory on one of the stgpool we have added one more and define into that stgpool although we can see that space is showing added  while running q stg but at the same time it is not updating on operation center still showing old size and displaying a error message of threshold on operation center. Please let me know what to do.

I have 2-3 query please advise.

1. how expiration is working on this directory container pool.
2. how space will reclaim after expiration.
3. how these threshold message will go from operation center.

------------------------------
Prem Singh

------------------------------

Hi,
Reclaim of containers is very much dependant upon your version.

Later version, 8.1.5 +, has a builtin reclaim feature for containers.

Earlier version did not reclaim very well.  The policy was to fill up all space before reusing space.  You could use some special settings when moving containers to only move real data, not whitespace.  This was a very crude system.

You can write a script that will find the 100 containers that will release the most space when moved with defrag=yes

Play around with this:

select 'move container '||cast(container_name as char(40))||' defrag=yes' from containers where TOTAL_SPACE_MB-FREE_SPACE_MB<100 and STATE<>'PENDING'



------------------------------
Håkon Phillip Tønder-Keul
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2019 07:25 AM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

How expiration and reclamation is working in directory container pool.

1. Because I am keep on adding space from storage and mximum I have 30 days retention for any backup still I always needed space on every week to extend the file system space of storage pools.
 I read in the document reclaim command is not supported then how space is reclaiming after expiration.

------------------------------
Prem Singh

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2019 11:03 PM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi All,

I have 12 directory on one of the stgpool we have added one more and define into that stgpool although we can see that space is showing added  while running q stg but at the same time it is not updating on operation center still showing old size and displaying a error message of threshold on operation center. Please let me know what to do.

I have 2-3 query please advise.

1. how expiration is working on this directory container pool.
2. how space will reclaim after expiration.
3. how these threshold message will go from operation center.

------------------------------
Prem Singh

------------------------------

Hi Hakon,

Thanks and apologies for late reply but I needed your more help here.

select 'move container '||cast(container_name as char(40))||' defrag=yes' from containers where TOTAL_SPACE_MB-FREE_SPACE_MB<100 and STATE<>'PENDING'

TOTAL_SPACE_MB-FREE_SPACE_MB<100 
 Which i highlighted that value i can check 

which i highlighted in yellow that value i can adjust according to my requirement and another thing which is showing pending i can use that by just simply deleting that. Please advise.

------------------------------
Prem Singh

------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 01-10-2019 02:52 AM
From: Håkon Phillip Tønder-Keul
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi,
Reclaim of containers is very much dependant upon your version.

Later version, 8.1.5 +, has a builtin reclaim feature for containers.

Earlier version did not reclaim very well.  The policy was to fill up all space before reusing space.  You could use some special settings when moving containers to only move real data, not whitespace.  This was a very crude system.

You can write a script that will find the 100 containers that will release the most space when moved with defrag=yes

Play around with this:

select 'move container '||cast(container_name as char(40))||' defrag=yes' from containers where TOTAL_SPACE_MB-FREE_SPACE_MB<100 and STATE<>'PENDING'



------------------------------
Håkon Phillip Tønder-Keul

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2019 07:25 AM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

How expiration and reclamation is working in directory container pool.

1. Because I am keep on adding space from storage and mximum I have 30 days retention for any backup still I always needed space on every week to extend the file system space of storage pools.
 I read in the document reclaim command is not supported then how space is reclaiming after expiration.

------------------------------
Prem Singh

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2019 11:03 PM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi All,

I have 12 directory on one of the stgpool we have added one more and define into that stgpool although we can see that space is showing added  while running q stg but at the same time it is not updating on operation center still showing old size and displaying a error message of threshold on operation center. Please let me know what to do.

I have 2-3 query please advise.

1. how expiration is working on this directory container pool.
2. how space will reclaim after expiration.
3. how these threshold message will go from operation center.

------------------------------
Prem Singh

------------------------------

Hi,

The containers in pending state will be deleted automatically when the reusedelay has passed.  You do not need to move them around.

For the TOTAL_SPACE_MB-FREE_SPACE_MB<100 , just replace 100 with your own value.  It is in MB, so start with a low number, and increase for each run.


------------------------------
Håkon Phillip Tønder-Keul
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 01-30-2019 07:40 AM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi Hakon,

Thanks and apologies for late reply but I needed your more help here.

select 'move container '||cast(container_name as char(40))||' defrag=yes' from containers where TOTAL_SPACE_MB-FREE_SPACE_MB<100 and STATE<>'PENDING'

TOTAL_SPACE_MB-FREE_SPACE_MB<100 
 Which i highlighted that value i can check 

which i highlighted in yellow that value i can adjust according to my requirement and another thing which is showing pending i can use that by just simply deleting that. Please advise.

------------------------------
Prem Singh


Original Message:
Sent: 01-10-2019 02:52 AM
From: Håkon Phillip Tønder-Keul
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi,
Reclaim of containers is very much dependant upon your version.

Later version, 8.1.5 +, has a builtin reclaim feature for containers.

Earlier version did not reclaim very well.  The policy was to fill up all space before reusing space.  You could use some special settings when moving containers to only move real data, not whitespace.  This was a very crude system.

You can write a script that will find the 100 containers that will release the most space when moved with defrag=yes

Play around with this:

select 'move container '||cast(container_name as char(40))||' defrag=yes' from containers where TOTAL_SPACE_MB-FREE_SPACE_MB<100 and STATE<>'PENDING'



------------------------------
Håkon Phillip Tønder-Keul

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2019 07:25 AM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

How expiration and reclamation is working in directory container pool.

1. Because I am keep on adding space from storage and mximum I have 30 days retention for any backup still I always needed space on every week to extend the file system space of storage pools.
 I read in the document reclaim command is not supported then how space is reclaiming after expiration.

------------------------------
Prem Singh

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2019 11:03 PM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi All,

I have 12 directory on one of the stgpool we have added one more and define into that stgpool although we can see that space is showing added  while running q stg but at the same time it is not updating on operation center still showing old size and displaying a error message of threshold on operation center. Please let me know what to do.

I have 2-3 query please advise.

1. how expiration is working on this directory container pool.
2. how space will reclaim after expiration.
3. how these threshold message will go from operation center.

------------------------------
Prem Singh

------------------------------

​Hi All,

What I am suspecting is copy group is the issue that's why it is just utilizing the space on and on and on.

Please see if you understand specifically for oracle database backup policy from both the server we have

7.1.7 container pool, and it is replicating the data from one TSM Server to another. For me these settings

are incorrect.

tsm: ESVIOTSM50_TSMINST1>q copy oracle_domain_mdc

Policy        Policy        Mgmt          Copy          Version-     Version-      Retain      Retain
Domain        Set Name      Class         Group          s Data       s Data        Extra        Only
Name                        Name          Name            Exists      Deleted     Versions     Version
---------     ---------     ---------     ---------     --------     --------     --------     -------
ORACLE_D-     ACTIVE        ORACLE_M-     STANDARD      No Limit     No Limit           14          30
 OMAIN_M-                    GMT_MDC
 DC
ORACLE_D-     ORACLE_P-     ORACLE_M-     STANDARD      No Limit     No Limit           14          30
 OMAIN_M-      OLSET_M-      GMT_MDC
 DC            DC

tsm: ESVIOTSM50_TSMINST1>q copy oracle_domain_tsminst1

Policy        Policy        Mgmt          Copy          Version-     Version-      Retain      Retain
Domain        Set Name      Class         Group          s Data       s Data        Extra        Only
Name                        Name          Name            Exists      Deleted     Versions     Version
---------     ---------     ---------     ---------     --------     --------     --------     -------
ORACLE_D-     ACTIVE        ORACLE_M-     STANDARD      No Limit     No Limit            7          30
 OMAIN_T-                    GMTCLS_-
 SMINST1                     TSMINST1
ORACLE_D-     ORACLE_P-     ORACLE_M-     STANDARD      No Limit     No Limit            7          30
 OMAIN_T-      OLSET_T-      GMTCLS_-
 SMINST1       SMINST1       TSMINST1

tsm: ESVIOTSM50_TSMINST1>q copy oracle_domain_tsminst2

Policy        Policy        Mgmt          Copy          Version-     Version-      Retain      Retain
Domain        Set Name      Class         Group          s Data       s Data        Extra        Only
Name                        Name          Name            Exists      Deleted     Versions     Version
---------     ---------     ---------     ---------     --------     --------     --------     -------
ORACLE_D-     ACTIVE        ORACLE_M-     STANDARD      No Limit     No Limit           30          30
 OMAIN_T-                    GMTCLS_-
 SMINST2                     TSMINST2
ORACLE_D-     ORACLE_P-     ORACLE_M-     STANDARD      No Limit     No Limit           30          30
 OMAIN_T-      OLSET_T-      GMTCLS_-
 SMINST2       SMINST2       TSMINST2

tsm: ESVIOTSM050_TSMINST2>q copy oracle_domain_mdc

Policy        Policy        Mgmt          Copy          Version-     Version-      Retain      Retain
Domain        Set Name      Class         Group          s Data       s Data        Extra        Only
Name                        Name          Name            Exists      Deleted     Versions     Version
---------     ---------     ---------     ---------     --------     --------     --------     -------
ORACLE_D-     ACTIVE        ORACLE_M-     STANDARD      No Limit     No Limit           30          30
 OMAIN_M-                    GMT_MDC
 DC
ORACLE_D-     ORACLE_P-     ORACLE_M-     STANDARD      No Limit     No Limit           30          30
 OMAIN_M-      OLSET_M-      GMT_MDC
 DC            DC

tsm: ESVIOTSM050_TSMINST2>q copy oracle_domain_tsminst1

Policy        Policy        Mgmt          Copy          Version-     Version-      Retain      Retain
Domain        Set Name      Class         Group          s Data       s Data        Extra        Only
Name                        Name          Name            Exists      Deleted     Versions     Version
---------     ---------     ---------     ---------     --------     --------     --------     -------
ORACLE_D-     ACTIVE        ORACLE_M-     STANDARD      No Limit     No Limit           30          30
 OMAIN_T-                    GMTCLS_-
 SMINST1                     TSMINST1
ORACLE_D-     ORACLE_P-     ORACLE_M-     STANDARD      No Limit     No Limit           30          30
 OMAIN_T-      OLSET_T-      GMTCLS_-
 SMINST1       SMINST1       TSMINST1

tsm: ESVIOTSM050_TSMINST2>q copy oracle_domain_tsminst2

Policy        Policy        Mgmt          Copy          Version-     Version-      Retain      Retain
Domain        Set Name      Class         Group          s Data       s Data        Extra        Only
Name                        Name          Name            Exists      Deleted     Versions     Version
---------     ---------     ---------     ---------     --------     --------     --------     -------
ORACLE_D-     ACTIVE        ORACLE_M-     STANDARD      No Limit     No Limit           30          14
 OMAIN_T-                    GMTCLS_-
 SMINST2                     TSMINST2
ORACLE_D-     ORACLE_P-     ORACLE_M-     STANDARD      No Limit     No Limit           30          14
 OMAIN_T-      OLSET_T-      GMTCLS_-
 SMINST2       SMINST2       TSMINST2

that is why it's creating issue and occupying the issue.


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Prem Singh

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Original Message:
Sent: 01-31-2019 02:19 AM
From: Håkon Phillip Tønder-Keul
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi,

The containers in pending state will be deleted automatically when the reusedelay has passed.  You do not need to move them around.

For the TOTAL_SPACE_MB-FREE_SPACE_MB<100 , just replace 100 with your own value.  It is in MB, so start with a low number, and increase for each run.


------------------------------
Håkon Phillip Tønder-Keul

Original Message:
Sent: 01-30-2019 07:40 AM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi Hakon,

Thanks and apologies for late reply but I needed your more help here.

select 'move container '||cast(container_name as char(40))||' defrag=yes' from containers where TOTAL_SPACE_MB-FREE_SPACE_MB<100 and STATE<>'PENDING'

TOTAL_SPACE_MB-FREE_SPACE_MB<100 
 Which i highlighted that value i can check 

which i highlighted in yellow that value i can adjust according to my requirement and another thing which is showing pending i can use that by just simply deleting that. Please advise.

------------------------------
Prem Singh


Original Message:
Sent: 01-10-2019 02:52 AM
From: Håkon Phillip Tønder-Keul
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi,
Reclaim of containers is very much dependant upon your version.

Later version, 8.1.5 +, has a builtin reclaim feature for containers.

Earlier version did not reclaim very well.  The policy was to fill up all space before reusing space.  You could use some special settings when moving containers to only move real data, not whitespace.  This was a very crude system.

You can write a script that will find the 100 containers that will release the most space when moved with defrag=yes

Play around with this:

select 'move container '||cast(container_name as char(40))||' defrag=yes' from containers where TOTAL_SPACE_MB-FREE_SPACE_MB<100 and STATE<>'PENDING'



------------------------------
Håkon Phillip Tønder-Keul

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2019 07:25 AM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

How expiration and reclamation is working in directory container pool.

1. Because I am keep on adding space from storage and mximum I have 30 days retention for any backup still I always needed space on every week to extend the file system space of storage pools.
 I read in the document reclaim command is not supported then how space is reclaiming after expiration.

------------------------------
Prem Singh

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2019 11:03 PM
From: Prem Singh
Subject: Size is not updating on Directory container pool on Operation center

Hi All,

I have 12 directory on one of the stgpool we have added one more and define into that stgpool although we can see that space is showing added  while running q stg but at the same time it is not updating on operation center still showing old size and displaying a error message of threshold on operation center. Please let me know what to do.

I have 2-3 query please advise.

1. how expiration is working on this directory container pool.
2. how space will reclaim after expiration.
3. how these threshold message will go from operation center.

------------------------------
Prem Singh

------------------------------

Original Message------

Hi,
Reclaim of containers is very much dependant upon your version.

Later version, 8.1.5 +, has a builtin reclaim feature for containers.

Earlier version did not reclaim very well.  The policy was to fill up all space before reusing space.  You could use some special settings when moving containers to only move real data, not whitespace.  This was a very crude system.

You can write a script that will find the 100 containers that will release the most space when moved with defrag=yes

Play around with this:

select 'move container '||cast(container_name as char(40))||' defrag=yes' from containers where TOTAL_SPACE_MB-FREE_SPACE_MB<100 and STATE<>'PENDING'



------------------------------
Håkon Phillip Tønder-Keul
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