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Weekly t-shirt challenge: advice for getting a job

  • 1.  Weekly t-shirt challenge: advice for getting a job

    Posted Thu July 23, 2020 07:24 PM

    Thank you so much for the family game suggestions!  I learned about a few new ones like Carrom and Ludo, and a few others that are similar to ones I know but just with a different name like Go which looks like Othello to me.  T-shirts this week go to @Fábio Emilio Costa and @Vishal Bajpe.  I hope you'll try again this week @Nancy Campbell since we have similar tastes in games!

    Your question this week was inspired by a Webinar hosted by our students in the Student Hub (ibm.biz/student-hub).  They had recruiters from various locations at IBM talking about how students can get a job including topics like participating in competitions (like MTM!) and contributing to Open Source and making personal connections.


    What advice would you give to a student looking for a job in mainframes? 

    If you're a student, what questions would you most like to hear the answers to on this topic?

    The rules*:
    1.  Every Thursday, I'll start a new discussion thread titled Weekly Challenge.

    2.  This week, reply to the thread with your job search advice.  

    3.  Vote for your favorite entries by clicking the "Recommend" button next to your favorites.

    4.  The following Thursday, I'll announce the winner and start the next week's thread.

    5.  The person submitting the item with the most votes will receive one of these Legends of Z t-shirts (or equivalent)!

    * The rules are not really rules.  This isn't a real contest or anything.  It's just something I feel like doing and having a fun excuse to share some cool t-shirts with you.  I hope you all have fun with it.  I am!

    Misty
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    Misty Decker
    Master the Mainframe

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  • 2.  RE: Weekly t-shirt challenge: advice for getting a job

    Posted Fri July 24, 2020 08:36 AM
    am currently a student and i will like to get a job in IBM.
    my question is:
    1) does a student have to be or live in the US to get a job in IBM
    2) is MTM the only exam needed to get a job in IBM(i finished part three of the MTM last year) or are their other exams needed
    3) what level of mainframe knowledge does a student need in other to get a job in IBM
    this are the questions i have been trying to get an answer to because i will really love to get a job in IBM but i don't know the part to follow.
    i will appreciate as many answers that i can get thank you

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    Nweke Chinonso
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  • 3.  RE: Weekly t-shirt challenge: advice for getting a job

    Posted Fri July 24, 2020 09:05 AM
    Hi, Misty!

    Hello, everybody! So you know "ludo" too? I used to play that board game with my mother, since 5 years old i guess...

    But, let's talk about the subject for this week:

    My first contact with MTM was in 2016, and even i've already a little knowledge about Cobol, Assembly and just starting to code in Java, that challenge was hard. I complete only the part 2. But i won a MTM shirt, and i still use it around (it was black, now it's dark gray...), and i'm so proud to have it yet.
    This year, i'm using Learning Systems, and I'm in part 3 (yey!!) and i guess i can finish those challenges 'till Sunday.

    So, i'm not a IBMer yet, but i can leave an advice for those who want to work with Mainframes: it seems to be hard at the very beginning, but that's ok, if you really want to know about this fantastic world, and you can to search and read official documentations (believe me, MTM teaches you a lot, but you still must have ability to find out the best way the solve some issues you'll find on your way), you'll see that Mainframe is a world of possibilities that worth all efforts you will do.

    In a short version: study, study, practice, study again, study, study more... and never give up!   

    See you!

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    Michel Rodrigo de Sousa
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  • 4.  RE: Weekly t-shirt challenge: advice for getting a job

    Posted Fri July 24, 2020 12:17 PM
    Edited by Steven Lauretti Fri July 24, 2020 12:18 PM
    Hi Misty,
    As a life long mainframer on the cusp of retirement I would tell any student starting out to not overlook a career in the mainframe environment.    Don't listen to your professors that tell you the mainframe is dead because it is not.  With all of the retirements there are plenty of openings to get into the mainframe and once you are there you can have a career for life.  You can specialize anywhere from the business application development side all the way through to the core infrastructure support side.  We have picked up several students right out of college that had never used the mainframe and they are doing just great.   There is plenty to learn so you will not get bored and things are being updated constantly so you have to keep learning your entire career.  Granted, not every company runs a mainframe so you are limited to some of the biggest companies in the world, but is that really a problem? 
    Steve Lauretti

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    Steven Lauretti
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  • 5.  RE: Weekly t-shirt challenge: advice for getting a job

    Posted Thu July 30, 2020 02:18 PM
    Edited by Vishal Bajpe Thu July 30, 2020 05:06 PM
    Its really a great topic that we have here right now. I am a student too studying in India and would like to know more about getting into Mainframes as a career since there are huge possibilities in here. I do have a few questions

    1) As our friend here, Nweke has rightly raised a question; what is the starting base knowledge needed to get into this? I assume MTM's are stepping stones and after having completed the Coursera specialization by IBM z/OS Mainframe Practitioner (which is really amazing @Nweke Chinonso​ do check it out) its clear that this goes really really deep. So how much is good enough to start off?

    2) What is the future for Mainframes after cloud services are on the rise? What about some new advances/ openings for R&D stuff in this field like say; An ambitious crossover of IBM Q with IBM Z maybe for some real DB muscle power over cloud services?

    3) I am not aware of a lot of mainframe culture here in India, so do I have to relocate for the same if I am to select this field? (Which I am totally fine with >.< ) And whom do I contact for it? We do have a placement department in most Indian colleges with contacts which serves as a contact point for students and industries so if they contact IBM would there be any info about openings in this field (since I havent really heard my senior batchmates talk a lot about IBM Z or mainframes in their IBM campus drives)

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    Vishal Bajpe
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